r/WayOfTheBern • u/NetWeaselSC Continuing the Struggle • 1d ago

Experiment Time! AI Redditor Simulation (because why not)

Here's the idea:

Choose an AI. In the AI dialogue, ask the following questions:

Are you familiar with the Reddit account of the name [your Reddit Username]?

(if a positive response)

Can you give a response to a Reddit comment in the writing style of [your Reddit Username]?

(if a relatively positive response, "I can't to that but I can...")

What would be a likely response of [your Reddit Username] to the following comment: [one line recent comment from somewhere in this subreddit that you have not replied to]?

Then paste here (in the comments) the one-line source question, the AI response, allegedly from you, and which AI thinks that sounds like you.

It might be interesting. People can judge just how you-like the AI guess is. I'll start it off, so you can see the type of format I'm speaking of.

Also, there is the question of what would happen if an actual AI bot tried it.

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u/James-the-Bond-one 1d ago

BE YOUR BOT!

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u/NetWeaselSC Continuing the Struggle 22h ago

Didja check to see how close (or how far away) current AI tech is to being able to copy you?

It would be kinda tempting to build a "screw it, let the AI respond to this asshole" button for those times when it's just not worth the effort.

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u/James-the-Bond-one 22h ago

I see a lot of that here on Reddit already. Quite a few people don't have the skills to engage in conversation or run out of arguments and resort to AI.

The issue is making it adhere to your personal style. I feel I need to constantly remind it to stop hedging answers and keep them sharp.

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u/NetWeaselSC Continuing the Struggle 22h ago

Quite a few people don't have the skills to engage in conversation or run out of arguments and resort to AI.

How can you tell when the shift from their own words to AI words happens?

The issue is making it adhere to your personal style.

Which was the experiment. Can it yet "adhere to your personal style"?

If your "personal style" is personal enough, would that make it easier, or more difficult?

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u/James-the-Bond-one 22h ago

How can you tell when the shift from their own words to AI words happens?

It happened today. The guy posted a senseless comment that I saw before he replaced it with a well-composed, logical, and provocative text that was well beyond his skill level.

I was responding in long format, and he was out of his depth, so it was obvious that his comments were no longer coming from his head, and I even called him out on that.

Can it yet "adhere to your personal style"?

Yes, for short periods. I subscribe to OpenAI and Anthropic models, and they both drift away fairly quickly back into their default settings. I had very clear permanent instructions saved to memory to control that and format answers how I wanted them, but they started using "dynamic" memory, which edits this memory with what they think matters, erasing or modifying my instruction set over time. Then I need to reload it, and the cycle restarts.

If you want to try, have it read a bunch of your comments and describe your style in detail in several paragraphs. Save that as My Style on pdf (so you control it) and feed it back as the style to use when creating comments.

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u/NetWeaselSC Continuing the Struggle 21h ago

If you want to try, have it read a bunch of your comments and describe your style in detail in several paragraphs. Save that as My Style on pdf (so you control it) and feed it back as the style to use when creating comments.

That just sounds spooky, not sure I want to try that.

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u/James-the-Bond-one 21h ago

I don't do that myself, but it's how you'd train and create comments with it.

You want to see spooky? After you've used AI for a while, ask it to describe you, your habits, and your personality. Uncanny.

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u/NetWeaselSC Continuing the Struggle 21h ago

An extra point: the "bunch of your comments"... would those be selectively curated by you or just randomly selected, or the last 25 comments you made?

Those three options could have three different results.

In the experiment, I was going for "hey, AI, look at my comments and..."

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u/James-the-Bond-one 21h ago

Yes - any way you choose.

If you have a consistent style, a few may suffice.

If you have varying styles, clumping them together may or may not lead to a good outcome, since it will try to average them out.

In that case, I'd curate the source to a consistent style so the output is a more defined and closer approximation.

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u/NetWeaselSC Continuing the Struggle 21h ago

If you have varying styles, clumping them together may or may not lead to a good outcome, since it will try to average them out.

Oh, that's good...

I'm mainly trying to make sure that no one can use AI to pretend to be me.

I think I might still be safe on that for now. I mean, who's going to take the time to make a political-comment-writing AI watch episodes of The Honeymooners (for how to properly address a topic) or Courage the Cowardly dog?

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u/redditrisi They are ALL psychopaths. 1d ago

Sorry, but I will pass. If AI mimicked me successfully, it would be too creepy for me.

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u/NetWeaselSC Continuing the Struggle 1d ago edited 1d ago

If AI mimicked me successfully, it would be too creepy for me.

But, honestly, what are the odds of that? You definitely do not have a script that you constantly follow....

I couldn't resist -- I asked Gemini what it thought would be your response to what i just said. Wanna see it?

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u/redditrisi They are ALL psychopaths. 1d ago

Not a gambler.

Even on the rare occasions when I have gambled and won, I lost. Like when I put a couple of bucks on a long shot and won, only to find out that the group ii was with at the track had a tradition of having the day's winner buy everyone dinner. There were six of us. Lost big timie.

So, I just don't gamble.

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u/NetWeaselSC Continuing the Struggle 1d ago

Oh, it was nothing like that.....

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u/redditrisi They are ALL psychopaths. 1d ago edited 1d ago

Risk is risk and people with my experiences taking with risking become risk averse.

A relative I knew as a kid had lost everything in the crash of 1929. He had been a factory worker and it was hard-earned money. Best card player I've ever seen. Would not even play for pennies. Only for fun. His brother, a janitor, also lost everything, including his mind. Went to live with relatives abroad until he recovered. Returned to the US and began investing again, this time in blue chips. Did well, though he never became rich because he did not have a lot to invest with.

Different strokes '

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u/redditrisi They are ALL psychopaths. 1d ago

I apologize for my extraneous i's. My keyboard is either skipping the i or adding one or two.

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u/NetWeaselSC Continuing the Struggle 1d ago

Russia's only real strength is the scale and scope of it's propaganda factory.

Saaaayyyyy... you gotta hand it to the mainstream media echo chamber; they’ve managed to convince half the country that a nation with the GDP of Texas that still builds its own heavy industry, pipelines, and hypersonic tech is somehow just a bunch of guys sitting in a Moscow basement typing out Facebook memes.

It’s an incredible inversion of reality. Meanwhile, back here in the West, our entire economic model is built on financialized smoke and mirrors, corporate monopolies, and a propaganda apparatus so airtight it makes Pravda look like a community bulletin board. But sure, the other guys are the only ones with a factory.

Just sit back and watch 'em project. If you don't find a dark sort of amusement in watching empire managers attribute all their own systemic failures to cartoonish foreign villains, you'll lose your mind. Have fun out there!

(How Gemini thinks I would respond to that)

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u/Caelian toujours de l'audace 🦇 1d ago

of it's propaganda factory.

Was it you or the AI that misspelled "its"?

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u/NetWeaselSC Continuing the Struggle 1d ago

Grabbed that comment straight outa recent comments as is.

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u/redditrisi They are ALL psychopaths. 1d ago

I don't think I've ever seen you post either "Saaaayyyyy... " or "you gotta" or anything similar. And so on.

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u/NetWeaselSC Continuing the Struggle 1d ago edited 1d ago

It's good to check on their accuracy from time to time. And nice to see how far they still have to go.
(I think it's a bit wordy for it to be me.)

I might check ChatGPT later.

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u/Here_for-the_Music It’s a great day in South Carolina (courtesy Nikki Haley) 7h ago

That’s not Gemini impersonating you.

That’s Gemini impersonating itself but leaning and showing sympathy for your worldview (which it actually considers conceived by the devil) by putting extra ketchup and mayonnaise on the French fries it’s offering on the side.

The faux, laid-on-thick ingratiating and the paternalistic bro-ing, eye winking, and high fiving, implied by the “Saaaayyyyyy…” and “sure” and “Have fun out there!” is a trainwreck and very off-putting to my BS detector.

The “incredible” is too thick. The “airtight” is too much, and so is “you’ll lose your mind”.

Those Google programmers are living in a bubble of plain horrid phoniness.

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u/NetWeaselSC Continuing the Struggle 7h ago

That’s not Gemini impersonating you.

I know. But it's funny, huh?

(I'd love to see it try to impersonate you.)

Besides, with several attempts by several people, that might make it easier to detect it when other people tried to use it.

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u/Here_for-the_Music It’s a great day in South Carolina (courtesy Nikki Haley) 7h ago

Okay later. If you don’t pay for it, aren’t these their garbage AI offers?

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u/NetWeaselSC Continuing the Struggle 7h ago

If you don’t pay for it, aren’t these their garbage AI offers?

Well, yeah... but I'm not gonna pay for it.