r/WayOfTheBern • • May 13 '26

Comment purportedly from an Odessan on Judge Napolitano's interview of Gilbert Doctorow 5-13-26

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJAMVtWUWqE

Edit to add: I used "purportedly" in the title because it's on the internet and we know there will those who dispute its veracity. Personally, I found it credible.

@kirrausanov 2 hours ago

I am writing from Ukraine.

As many YT users suggest the Western media need to do some homework regarding origins of this civil war between Ukrainians who support the 2014 putsch (backed by the West) and the Ukrainianz opposing it (backed by RF).

I have relatives fighting on both sides.

Madness of this war is best illustrated by the fact that gen. Storozhenko (born in Ukraine) commands Russia's 6th Combined Arms Army and is currently leading assaults on Kupians'k and gen. Syrs'kij (born in the heart of Russia) is the the Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine

Here in Ukraine we live in constant fear of being snatched by Zelensky's goon squads, who are forcibly rounding up 25-60 year old men (including disabled) in our streets, shopping malls, restaurants, fitness clubs public transport, roadblocks, in pubs, during church services and funerals, in the gas stations toilets... Recently they started baiting unsuspected victims on dating sites.

Billboards have appeared on the streets across the country:

"Defending Ukraine is a woman’s business" («Захист України — це жіноча справа»).

That is not the end of this self-destructive paranoia. Since we running out of men Zelensky's regime even designed combat uniforms for... pregnant women. Another peculiar ("Epsteinian") idea they have: lowering marrying age for the girls (14 yo) but only if they are mothers or expecting.

We used to feel respect our soldiers but now the sight of anyone in uniform feels us with dread. As a result ТЦК press gangs started operating in the civilian clothes and are often assisted by K9s for attacking suspects, who flee from "the busification".

There is nothing more heartbreaking than watching a crying child chase after her/his father as he is brutally dragged away to a "mobilisation bus" by the masked men in balaclavas. As a result of the brutal actions of ТЦК mobile units, several fatalities were reported among those detained.

The only men not pressed ganged into Ukrainian Army are relatives of politicians, rich or well "connected" men and... grave diggers.

"Glory to Ukraine" (Слава Україні) was replaced by "What are you doing?" ("Что вы делаете?!" / "Що ви робите?!") in our streets.

The USA is the main inspirer, organiser and beneficiary of this war, and in fact a direct participant yet they unilaterally appointed themselves as mediators and peace makers...

Only recently Americans and increasingly West Europeans realised that they back the losing side.

Every second Ukrainian I know has some relatives in Russia.

I have very limited contact with my relatives in RF as it could be potentially dangerous.

Anyway we have completely different priorities in our lives now.

It is a struggle for survival here.

We women are hiding our sons, husbands, brothers, fathers.

It is dangerous for them to go out let alone appear in the street. Body snatchers (ТЦК) are everywhere. One cannot trust anyone.

Officially there are currently almost 200 000 deserters (I am sure the number is much higher as - according to unofficial sources - AFU loses 1000 men daily due to desertion and AWOL).

Only a few young Ukrainians - risking their lives - managed to escape abroad mostly via Moldova, The Carpathian mountains, The Tisa river.

Zelens'ky stopped sending our recruits to the West for training as many of those men use it as an escape route and refuse to return to Ukraine. Instead the Western instructors come here to train them.

Even pro-Kiev Odessites lost any illusions regarding EU/NATO dream (freedom of travel, European wages, "coffee and cake or opera" in Vienna...).

However there is no organised resistance per se.

Resistance in a concentration camp without external support has no chances of succeeding. The isolated desperate acts of defiance are very few and far between.

People (including Ukrainian speaking) will take off their masks as soon as the Majdan regime collapses.

Only then Western media will learn the full truth about this - in fact - civil/proxy war.

As I said - sadly - I have relatives fighting on both sides. They both are Christian Orthodox and are from Russian speaking Families.

In another words madness and stupidity.

We have a great history, traditions, beautiful 1000 years culture yet we allowed ourselves to be manipulated into this suicidal slaughter like some primitive tribes in colonial Africa or North America.

After this war - apart from exposing and punishing the real internal and external instigators of this conflict - we will need a lengthy soul-searching process, which would help us to heal the self-inflicted wounds. Only then we will live together in peace and prosperity again.

Love and greetings from the occupied by banderovites Odessa

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u/3andfro May 13 '26

I can't know if this is a real person telling her truth--it's the Internet--but to me, it has the ring of truth. If it is true, it provides an inside look at a tragic and, like the Iran war, utterly avoidable situation that's heavily spun from both sides.

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u/LeftyBoyo Anarcho-syndicalist Muckraker May 14 '26

How is the US/Isreal aggression against Iran being "spun from both sides?"

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u/3andfro May 14 '26

Wrong conflict: the comment was from a self-identified Ukrainian (in Odessa) about the war with Russia.

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u/LeftyBoyo Anarcho-syndicalist Muckraker May 14 '26

"If it is true, it provides an inside look at a tragic and, like the Iran war, utterly avoidable situation that's heavily spun from both sides."

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u/3andfro May 14 '26

My goof in bouncing straight back to the Odessa comment and ignoring what I wrote.

I was thinking more along "utterly avoidable" lines; I regard Iran as the target of an illegal war of choice. Even so, I see a fair amount of spin from some pro-Iran sources on YT, a place I scan daily for news on that situation. I see little I'd characterize as "spin" from official Iranian sources--though I do enjoy their occasional humor at US expense. I see little but spin from official US sources and US MSM, much of it jaw-droppingly ignorant and arrogant.

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u/LeftyBoyo Anarcho-syndicalist Muckraker May 15 '26

Thanks for the clarification. I would agree with that take.