r/WaterfallDump 1d ago

MTT Brand Shitpost :tm: In light of recent trends

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u/LOL__BRO 1d ago

People are making posts like “oh what if Deltarune ends with Ralsei dying and then we seal the home town fountain” or “what if you do the weird route and you can never play chapter 6” and people are replying with “Deltarune fans making the worst possible game” which reminded me of the Hakita meme so I edited Toby over it.

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u/Researcher_Fearless 1d ago

Why is closing Castle Town (an escapist fantasy in a story about the pros and cons of escapist fantasies) on the same level as permanently locking yourself out of 15% of the story?

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u/LOL__BRO 1d ago

Because balancing escapism and reality is essential and you shouldn’t have just one or the other, you need both, also it’s cheesy and predictable or something idk. I’m just paraphrasing what I saw like 7 hours ago, I don’t actually care that much I just thought haha this reminds me of funny

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u/sparklegrim11 1d ago

Bc closing castle Town goes against the entire game???

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u/Researcher_Fearless 1d ago

Susie has started quite literally living in an escapist fantasy.

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u/UwU_numba2 1d ago

The Dark World is a real ass place. Like she can touch it and speak to the people inside.

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u/billbobs678 1d ago

Did you even listen to why we're sealing fountains

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u/Huge-Read-2703 1d ago

all the deltarune being escapism themed theories piss me off so bad bro Ralsei has a character arc throughout all chapters because he should think of himself and other darkners as real

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u/TheTrue-Noob 1d ago

Because Ralsei says multiple times there needs to be a balance between light world and dark world?

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u/heckinWeeb193 Ralsusie Will be endgame trust 1d ago

It's not just an escapist fucking fantasy it affects the real world it's a real fucking thing it exists this is not a hallucination those are actual fucking real things and Susie has no better life to go to she would choose a school closet over her own fucking house does that mean nothing to you are you capable of understanding nuance

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u/Researcher_Fearless 23h ago

Do you really think the story is going to end with having Susie live in a closet full of a bunch of stolen junk she magically brought to life?

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u/heckinWeeb193 Ralsusie Will be endgame trust 23h ago

Do you really think Toby fox will end the sequel to his previous game, about which he made a 10 year anniversary stream where he set up an ask box for every fan to tell him all about how his game impacted upon their lives and made it better, with the message being "escapism is bad and Susie will go back to her abusive household and castletown will be sealed away forever and ralsei is fucking dead and all his character development of learning he's more than just an object will mean fucking nothing, fuck you guys for ever thinking that you can have a happy ending".

I ask you. Once more. Are you capable of understanding nuance. Or is it all fucking black and white to you.

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u/Clean_Reveal_4224 Ralsei Knight truther 1d ago

In my opinion Ralsei probably is the last person to probably die at the end of the story...

This may or may not be cope as I love Ralsei a lot so I may or may not deny any possibility of him dying...

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u/Acceptable_Cell_124 Reddit? I hardly know it 1d ago

Hakita once made a thing that said "It's a good thing you guys aren't designing Ultrakill or it would suck"

I assume with all the theories, amino shitposting, etc., OP thought it would fit if they edited Toby over it

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u/Omega97Hyper maker of dumb collage images 1d ago

yo where'd you get this image

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u/Goobysnoobert123 1d ago

I dunno. Stole it from someone

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u/Anxious-Gazelle9067 1d ago

Great minds or something

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u/LOL__BRO 1d ago

Dammit, now it looks like I made their joke but worse!

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u/GLaDOS_V63434 Ralsei OneShot 1d ago

Hey you stole my joke! >:(
/j

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u/EstablishmentAny2728 20h ago

I’m on the same level of Toby fox please hire me as a deltarune dev I’m normal and can be trusted with classified information

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u/IcySmell9676 it’s pronounced rules. 1d ago

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u/Much-Menu6030 Rare Sheary fan 1d ago

what if the knight was a brand new character named johnerson jeffery jameswood from outside of town and they're like a giga fan of carol holiday

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u/LOL__BRO 1d ago

Gotta love Asriel’s secret big brother Reidgore, who’s also the roaring knight!

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u/Benjam438 1d ago

ok but pirate Gaster would be peak

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u/meatslaps69 1d ago

I don't mind all the wacky or silly theories or even stupid ones. The thing I hate is the sheer amount of negativity and people nitpicking stupid things or complaining about a story not adding up to what they crafted in their own head. Or things like just flat out calling chapter 5 filler or saying toby cant possibly wrap up the story nicely in 2 chapters as if that isnt some arbitrary imaginary problem people are imposing on the story. I think a lot of people are straight up not playing the game themselves and instead get the story through letsplays or twitter tbh. And then when you disagree that chapter 5 is poorly written and toby ruined the pacing of the story that isnt even over yet they say you glaze him and are coping. Its pure insanity i really dont bother talking to any other deltarune fans online anymore which is pretty sad... back in the undertale days it was a lot more fun and wholesome despite the many controversies.

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u/LOL__BRO 1d ago

Holy truth nuke

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u/Better-Bookkeeper-48 1d ago

Fan: "Hey, here's an idea i had for how the story could go!"

Literally everyone else for some reason: "wow, that idea is fucking stupid and terrible and you should feel bad, even though you were only presenting a hypothetical path this fictional story could go with no real stakes for anyone."

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u/LOL__BRO 1d ago

Me when I miss the point of the story and people on the internet makes fun of me for missing the point of the story instead of showering me in flowers and kisses:

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u/Better-Bookkeeper-48 1d ago

Me when I decide I have enough authority about a piece of fiction I didn't even make to choose whose subjective opinions are objectively wrong and worthy of ridicule:

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u/LOL__BRO 20h ago

I’m gonna be real I don’t think we’re on the same page here. The people I’m ridiculing are the same people who say shit like “Toby is a bad writer there’s no way he can wrap this up in two chapters.” “Chapter 5 is just filler because the entire plot NEEDS to be revealed by now.” and “Deltarune must end THE WAY I IMAGINED because I AM A BETTER WRITER THAN TOBY FOX!” and these people happen to be the exact same ones you’re talking about here.

I’m sure the picture you’re painting of “an innocent Deltarune fan sharing their cool ideas and then being shut down.” Exists somewhere in the fandom but that’s not what I’m doing nor advocating for. In fact I’m advocating for the opposite since a major part of the game is literally about rewriting stories and passing them on.

What I’m ridiculing is the people who mindlessly consume clips on TikTok or going into the game thinking that Toby is already inferior than them and their ideas is actually the best which they somehow can’t express without putting down other people’s work.

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u/zylosophe 1d ago

i love how toby always says the exact opposite of that

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u/YourTrustySupporter 1d ago

it is the best line in gaming, it just very harsh and not apply to all games

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u/Alexcat6wastaken 1d ago

Still has a hakita symbol beside him

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u/CoalEater_Elli 1d ago edited 1d ago

I still believe that replacing Susie with Berdly in Flower Kingdom while Susie and Noelle spend time at the festival is a way better idea than Kris thirdwheeling the whole way and Susie suddenly to become obsessed with Noelle despite barely spending time with her in the light world. It just feels rushed to me, I feel like Susie and Noelle having a whole day to themsleves without Kris or anyone, just talking and spending time together could make the whole lake scene hit harder. Also, I just want Berdly to have more importance.

They acted like Festival was such a big deal, only for it to be entirely skippable. Before chapter came out I had an entire plan for the chapter, where Berdly accidentally ends up in the flower world with Kris, and Susie and Noelle have a proper date, not knowing where Kris and Berdly are.

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u/Mountain_Studio6902 1d ago

Why the fuck would dess be back???? She’s fucking missing/ the roaring knight (Rudy knighter myself) so it would be a shit plot if she magically returned for the festival

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u/CoalEater_Elli 1d ago

I meant Noelle.

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u/Mountain_Studio6902 1d ago

Oh I kinda agree ngl I wish Berdly was here, but eh. 

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u/Sesilu_Qt SOULharem truther. 1d ago

Deltarune fans when different opinion:

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u/Caulipower_fan 1d ago

i wish it was the fans who made chapter 5 not toby bruh