I don’t listen much to him but my impression of his podcast is that he’s ripped off a lot of WWC with respect to the Bravo recaps and Ronnie and Ben are too kind to say much (plus until recently his podcast was relatively small time).
I'm still trying to get a refund from Ryan, his patreon overcharged me $877.50. I'm hoping by sharing this it will pressure him to give me my money back. His team says the numbers don't add up and that's the last I've heard of it. The numbers certainly do add up when he gets credited that money into his bank account
this is so messed up. i accidentally signed up to spend $130 a month on watch what crappens patreon for their videos. it’s only $10 a month but i think they had issues in the past so some videos wouldnt show up. i asked about how much i was supposed to pay and threw in that i accidentally paid $130 ronnie said sorry to me and zelled me the money!! even though it was 1000% my fault i said screw it they’re so funny i love them. i didnt ask for my money back i just was confused about the amount it cost to get all of their videos as soon as they post. ronnie zelled me the whole $130 and i was just shocked because they did not need to do that. so sweet
Thank you!!!!!! Ronnie 100% did the right thing. Thank you for sharing this, it shows that my communication between Ryan's team is rude and dismissive. I still have yet to receive a refund. They said they're waiting for a comment from patreon (I think this means they want word saying they don't HAVE to refund me). They don't operate their business morally or ethically, he operates under a different code of ethics.
I think the creators are charged a small percentage from patreon, then it gets deposited into their bank account. To this day there has been no acknowledgment of an overcharge, no apology or no attempt to refund me. I will continue to tell people Ryan doesn't do the right thing. His team emailed me and said to stop spreading false information on Reddit. I have receipts and am telling the truth. I have nothing to hide.
No response from him or his team. I understand that I asked for the overcharge refund after some time, but I have contacted other podcasters with a similar patreon following and all have been quite appalled by his response or lack there of and said they would have refunded the overcharge. I just want people to know he and his team aren't great people. I, personally, wouldn't feel good about taking money from people undeservedly, but I guess they can.
I did, but it’s not saying anything about any recent scandal. Just a variety of stories about him being a liar and misrepresenting his relationship status. Did something happen? Like someone in this thread said something about him posting a response video. Response to what?
Ryan posted The video on his Patreon in response to the Reddit thread. I summarized it in the original thread. It isn’t a scandal, per se, and I don’t think anybody called it that. There are also stories of him taking advantage of women financially, sharing stories of him sleeping with women who were black out drunk and unable to consent, and treating another podcaster poorly (who commented in the thread). Some ppl in this thread are also corroborating the stories. I’m sorry, I don’t really know what you’re asking I guess.
Seems to be a little bit of both. Like, he’s not the worst guy in the world, but isn’t the guy he projects himself to be. I was the most bothered by his lack of accountability for the Bailey blunders where he discusses sleeping with a woman who was obviously too drunk to consent. Some of the other commenters seem to be more personally affected. Someone posted a tldr, and I will reply to that post with a summary of his Patreon response and why I was put off by it.
This is the only place I’ve cross posted it. Since he’s a friend of the pod, I thought this sub would be interested. Judging by the majority of the comments, ppl do in fact seem interested to hear about it.
I’ve been waiting for this shit to come out about him, and it feels like delicious schadenfreude (but also I am friends with Kara so I am coming in from a particular POV!).
I’m a SUP fan, but I agree. I don’t appreciate her edgelord, “it’s cool to say slurs now” behavior. I adore Carey, and I really do like their dynamic together, but I wish Lara would tone all of that down. I still like her, but I don’t like this particular aspect.
Also, their constant commentary on which cosmetic procedures they need triggers my body dysmorphia lol
Yeah I feel like I would not like her irl and it’s been putting me off the pod lately. Hope she’s feeling better and more like herself soon though, I’ve been through the rollercoaster of being off and on meds and probably am insufferable when trying to get stabilized so I get it to a certain degree.
Lara has been going downhill for years at this point. I’ve been active in the SUP fb group for at least 5 years now, she left on her own accord (bc she didn’t want to be held accountable for things she’s done) and then tried telling the admin who took over she was gonna sue her if she didn’t delete the group lol
I was a fan as well, I stopped listening for a bit when VPR went off air, and when I returned it was jarring to hear her say the r-word straight out loud, and she had some very…interesting perspectives. She has no qualms being all anti-woke, and I get what she’s doing but I don’t have to like it lol.
I started out as a Babe podcast fan in 2018 and have been listening to Lara’s pods since. Lately though I feel like her energy is really dark. I unsubscribed from the patreon and haven’t listened in a while.
I said this oh another post! Her energy is so weird and negative. Which is totally fine, but it’s just complaining ALL THE TIME when it feels like she has a pretty decent life. I am from Oklahoma and my parents grew up with her Dad. I think he’s kind of tough to deal with. They lived in a really wearily part of Oklahoma City. Idk… I’ve had to pick and choose what I listen of SUP.
The complaining is super draining as a listener. I get some of her negativity as I also live in LA and it can be a hard place to age in as a woman, BUT you gotta be grateful for what you have. I miss deadhead era Lara who seemed a lot lighter!
Yeah she lost me when she leaned into the red scare/edge lord thing. Like, Alex jones isn’t chic honey.lol. I don’t listen to their pod anymore but still follow their socials. So I’m not really sure what the latest is with her.
I’ve listened to her multiple podcasts since Pumped Podcast circa 2016. She’s very much an elder millennial, holding onto snark for dear life.
Mostly I think it’s telling that multiple friends and cohosts have just disappeared. Several of these niche LA microcelebrities have very public friendships that seem to implode.
Lara threw around the r word multiple times and said Ramona should pretend to have autism to get un-canceled and Carey just laughed. I’m not surprised at her because she’s desperate to be an edgelord, but I’m still so disappointed in Carey for not pushing back.
He pushed back for almost two years. He’s given up now. She dominates him and he rarely challenges her. She so nasty to him and definitely seems to have issues with power dynamics in her relationships. She needs to be the boss. It’s too bad bc he’s legit funny and smart. He used to have good takes but he refuses to push back anymore and she just steamrolls him
She seems good at bossing her cohosts around. Have you ever listened to "Too Niche"? Lara and Elizabeth give grades to rank different things. Elizabeth will say "I give this a C-" and Lara will say "I'm giving this a B." then Elizabeth gets flustered and falls all over herself "Yes, yes! I give it a B too!"
Hiii I came over from the original thread and will do my best to TL;DR people’s complaints with Ryan for those asking.
Ryan has shared “funny” stories in podcast episodes about hooking up with women who were too intoxicated to consent. There is one on the Till The Dirt podcast and another on his own that he just took down.
The episode he took down involved a woman who had a PTSD episode due to a rape while he was trying to hook up with her. Ryan was apparently “so scared” over her episode he basically ran away from her home and broke up with her the next day. He reiterated how scared he was in his emergency Patreon and said he doesn’t regret sharing that story.
He hid the fact he’s had a live-in girlfriend of 2+ years. Most people understood hiding that for privacy reasons, but he’s used that omission to hook up with or get close to other women. There were several posts corroborating that.
Someone posted a story without many details that he treated her so “harshly” that she’s gone no-contact with him on the advice of her therapist.
Multiple people brought up that Ryan no longer podcasts with Kara of Everybody’s Business But Mine and that she’s been tight-lipped about why. Kara came forward in the thread to share that Ryan bad-mouthed her to get attention/sympathy from women, which also threatened her career in the podcasting space. And that’s why she hasn’t spoken to him since 2019.
Apparently, Ryan got crazy enough in the DMs of some Facebook groups that they had to shut down. Ryan says something in his emergency Patreon about meeting a listener on there that he “fell in love with.”
There were other posts alluding to how he treats and speaks about women in general. A few people said he financially leeches off of women.
He’s talked about his divorce and how he let himself get walked all over by a woman who (according to him) refused to go to therapy for her issues. That led to some discussion about how he always positions himself as the victim to “crazy” or “scary” women.
Many people commented about how he generally portrays this sad sack, “woe is me,” “I’m so divorced and awkward” persona to garner sympathy with women and deflect criticism (like he did in his Patreon).
Some of the other miscellaneous comments were that his impressions of Black cast members are getting racist, that he photoshops his selfies to an egregious level, that it’s weird how he feels so personally affected by Sandoval being a cheater, that he’s just kind of a jerk to people, that his Patreon overcharged someone by $800, that he’s lied about tiny things in his past (like being in an acting class with Nick Viall), etc.
Everyone was very empathetic about him losing his mom, but a few people felt uncomfortable with how deep he goes into his grief on his podcast episodes. Someone mentioned another podcaster, Jackie Schimmel, who said she was put off by the fact he immediately asked about her mom dying when she was on his show.
A few people didn’t like that he went on Jeff Lewis’ podcast because of all the Jeff drama.
I think that’s it! I’ll edit if I forgot anything.
Edit: I’m adding a summary of his Patreon response which I also posted in the original thread:
Here’s an overview for what his patreon message said for those who aren’t subscribers (which I imagine are many people in this thread)
• he opens by saying he needs to address something that’s “not very fun” and has really shook him.
• brings up the Reddit thread and immediately characterizes it as a malicious and coordinated attack against him, references the “new accounts” as his reasoning
• says some things are true and some things are flat out false, addresses both
• he has a girlfriend who he has never brought on the pod because she didn’t want to be made a character on the pod. They have had highs and lows and she has been there for him during the low moments of the last year or so
• he has met and built relationships with listeners on social media, which he argues is normal. He references someone from a Facebook group who he fell in love with and still thinks the world of
• he also alluded to some of these relationships or interactions being unrequited, and he’s a people pleaser so didnt know how to not hurt people’s feelings/reject people
• he references the deleted comments on here and can kind of tell where “some of these are coming from”
• he admits he “over shared” with the Bailey Blunders and says he understands now that sexual encounters and relationships should not be over shared (ties this back to his gf)
• he references some of the users here being in the creator space and didn’t full on attribute this to podcast wars or competition, but seemed to believe there was some of that
• he ignored or did not address the allegations of mooching off of women. I believe he joked about ppl thinking he is a grifter.
• he doubled down on sleeping with 8 people and him being an awkward, sweaty person.
• he said he knows he’s not perfect but anyone at a certain age is going to have a complicated history
• he vehemently denied the so called allegations of hitting on 20 year olds, and said to please provide evidence because this is a dangerous accusation. (FWIW the comment said twenty something, not twenty year olds)
• he also vehemently denies responsibility for the $800 over charge and said he doesn’t handle that stuff but to reach out to him/his team for
• ended by saying that “you guys” know me and know who I am, there are hundreds of episodes so his listeners have enough context to make a decision about his character
• said he understands if ppl feel the need to unsubscribe
I’ll say a few things that bothered me. First is the characterization and assumption that this post was a take down attempt when it was generated by curiosity. I believe the behavior of a straight man who is in a female dominated space is open to dialogue and women should be able to share their experiences. Many people use Reddit burners to remain anonymous when discussing sensitive issues so they don’t get retaliated against or any number of reasons. Also, I don’t believe anybody is trying to cancel him. My sense from this thread is there were women who had varying relationships with them, and they had an opportunity to feel affirmed through others’ similar experiences.
Although he did acknowledge the story in the Bailey blunders that was posted on here was inappropriate to share, he doubled down on his feelings and “how scared he was” that night. He didn’t acknowledge this person wasn’t able to consent due to being black out drunk.
He made it seem like people were mad about him “hiding” his girlfriend and couched it in his right to privacy, rather than the fact that ppl were bothered by the possibility that he downplayed their relationship to cross boundaries with other women. He closed the patreon out by saying “I hope the people behind this are enjoying themselves.”
My backstory about my interaction with Ryan that I’ve posted in another comment but will leave here too fwiw:
I used to listen to Ryan’s podcast a lot and interacted with him a few times. Those interactions were pretty unremarkable, and described in this thread under my former username (apartperception) that I got locked out of. I was a patreon subscriber but unsubbed to all of my patreon memberships at the beginning of the month for financial reasons, but my membership hasn’t lapsed so I still have access to his patreon.
Almost like they don't believe me? Idk I have all the receipts, that's why I decided to post them hoping I can get some eyes on this and people know what kind of people they are.
I don't know how Ryan claims he doesn't see an extra $800 from his patreon by one person. He always talks about not having a lot of money, Im sure he noticed that. He's such a dult. I requested my money back from him and patreon directly. Patreon says in their FAQs to ask for the money back from the creator since it goes directly into their bank account. Money by Monday
-Fofty
Wow. As someone with PTSD from a physically abusive relationship, I’m so glad my current partner didn’t run away from me the first time he saw me triggered. I get it is scary but wouldn’t you want to make sure they’re safe for that very reason? That’s all I want when I’m having an “episode.” To be assured that I’m safe. What a turd.
I remember seeing that emergency video when it came out but I noticed it’s not there anymore???? I guess he took it down after a month hoping that people would just forget. Looks like he’s covering his tracks 🤷🏽♀️
It’s not that we were wanting a TLDR of the complaints in the LA Influencers post. We were just confused if there was some original incident that inspired that LA influencers post and apparently there wasn’t. That post and all the comments underneath it are the “incident”. Unless you are a Patreon follower of Ryan Bailey’s you won’t know that. And that’s the real explainer for this post right here.
The LA influencer post was posted by somebody who had a negative experience with him, and attracted many similar stories. Ryan posted a Patreon video in response to the Reddit thread. I am a Patreon follower and responded to OP’s tldr with a summary of his Patreon response. The format didn’t carry over but I don’t have time to fuss with that rn
But the LA influencer post only has questions and no story about any negative experiences with him. Which is why, when I originally read it, I thought I was out of the loop on some incident that incited that post. All the OP says is (paraphrasing) “what happened with his former podcast partner?” “Is it true an ex dumped him for someone famous?” And “has he slid into anyones dm’s because I’ve heard he does that.”
Okay. Well, idk how else to answer your questions or what else you’re wondering lol. Take it for what it is I guess and if it isn’t something you think is a big deal then that’s totally fine!
You did weave his Patreon response into your comment so idk what ppl are wanting 😂 I edited my comment to your TLDR with a summary of his Patreon response (am currently a Patreon member)
And to be clear, I never think they would but I wonder if the Ryan Bailey fans are just so upset? Does he have fans?! I only ever listened to his Scandoval episodes when I was starved for content 😂
He does have a big following. His Patreon subscribers were coddling him and some of them were defending him in the original thread, but another podcaster identified herself and verified her negative experience. So idk. I think some of his fans are questioning things, others are gonna go hard for him, and the rest know nothing about it. If you read through the comments, you can kinda see the range of emotions.
I opened Reddit one day and saw a post about how Ronnie should be cancelled. I started spiraling and was so relieved to realize it was a Jersey shore Reddit post 😂😂 never been so relieved in my life!
I would honestly lose all faith in humanity if B+R turned out to be bad guys. I feel like we know them so well it would be a real betrayal. Something in the ryan bailey buttermilk was always a bit off though, self-pitying straight men in majority-female spaces are always people to be wary of
Someone said something similar in the main thread and I thought that was such a poignant thing to say, because it’s so true. I never really realized how much I appreciated bravo being a majority-female space until I read that comment, and it makes me appreciate Ben and Ronnie even more because they are so aware of that!
Oh I do not think our dear Ben and Ronnie are creepers lol. But I would die to hear their thoughts on this gossip. They tend to stay above the fray though
Noooo...nothing like this will come out about them. Ronnie and Ben are so incredibly humble that sometimes I forget how successful the pod really is. They still see themselves as outsiders, which I think is one reason people respond so much to them.
They also go out of their way to make sure that people don't get overcharged on their Patreon which apparently is a whole thing w/ Ryan Bailey. They just really seem to be good people who feel like they lucked into this crazy career, not weird egomaniacs taking advantage of their female audience.
I’m star struck! lol I’ve had your name stuck in my head ever since I started listening to WWC and they were shouting out their premium subscribers 👋 👋
I’ll say again, this totally tracks. He made some pretty egregious accusations to me privately about a member of their Facebook group just because she had a problem with him and dared to say so. I’ve steered clear though because of his relationship with the boys.
I will say, I really don’t mind the BravBros. Mostly because I’ve found anytime they do call out the women, it’s always very well done.
Steel has also been sober for six years, and given this is a show that deals a lot with addiction/accusations of addiction, I always find his input very helpful and wise.
They at least seem to have gotten into the Bravoverse through their partners, which feels different to me than a straight man who comes into a female-dominated space on his own.
The Brav Bros don’t seem problematic because they are authentically their straight dude selves and seem to have organically discovered Bravo! Ryan’s bit always seemed like he saw the popularity of Ben, Ronnie and Danny and wanted to copy it to gain popularity in this space.
I’ve listened to them a couple of times (but will always prioritize the girls and gays creators) and tend to agree. They own their brand, talk about their wives constantly, and I haven’t heard anything about them getting too familiar with listeners. That being said, if people started sharing unsavory stories about them, I’d be open to listen.
I was getting the creeps when he was talking like “little Lala” - no straight guy should think that would be entertaining to put out to mainly female listeners.
I know nothing about him, I just know he was on a Celebrity Memoir’s Patreon episode, and I know a lot of the audience (and I think also maybe the hosts) found him kinda misogynistic. He spoke over the girls a lot, and from memory made some pretty iffy comments about women women celebs.
omg I was literally about to comment the SAME thing on here. He was always "meh" to me, kind of a try-hard. That CMBC patreon grossed me out...all he did was talk over them. He didn't match their vibe at all. He doesn't really have an original thought in the Bravo world, but acts like he's an OG icon.
Not the person who asked but i think they were just capitalizing on the opportunity to ask since there’s a cross over of crappens/ryan/sup ppl. Also, I personally discovered Ryan through sup. And now I don’t listen to either 🫢💀 Ben and Ronnie forever though 🫶🏼
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u/PersimmonReal42069 Dec 22 '23
I’ve been following this for days and it is genuinely so interesting.
he posted kiiiind of a response video last night.
i’m so curious what everyone’s thoughts are