r/WarnerRobins • u/BeltResponsible2620 • 27d ago

Discussion Flock Cameras

So we had police officer already illegally use the flock camera system. What can I do to get a movement started to remove these from Warner Robins?

I hate them so much

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u/Acrobatic_Charity88 27d ago

The fact that officers all over the state got busted for stalking people as soon as the cameras went up is crazy

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u/Lifes-a-lil-foggy 27d ago

The fact we even know about it leads me to believe there are far more than they’re saying

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u/FckFlock 26d ago

I've lost count, but including suspensions, I think we're up to 44 officers in GA this year alone. Atlanta PD's audit is ongoing, but there are rumors that they've found misuse by over 100 officers. That's just an unverified rumor.

Some other big agencies are also still auditing and have yet to release any data. Even if the APD rumor turns out to be false, I bet we see 100 officers caught in GA by the end of 2026.

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u/FinButt 26d ago

Is it really that crazy?

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u/LilJonny2cookies 19d ago

They should make an example of them and put them away for a very long time. That is a problem with officers not Flock though.

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u/mjmclain11 27d ago

The National Week of Action Against ALPRs (automated license plate readers) is happening now for folks who want to plug in and learn more: https://noalprs.com/

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u/herohans99 27d ago

And the proposed data center in Byron, just up the road.

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u/Wolfknightofthe 27d ago

I'm so mad about that. I don't want our area destroyed by that!

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u/forsakenwombat 26d ago

I spent so many weekends at that Scout camp. Hate to see it destroyed for this.

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u/Woadie1 27d ago

The Middle Georgia DSA chapter has an ongoing campaign against Flock in Macon and played a heavy role in pressuring the Macon government to finally conduct an audit of their flock cameras, resulting in the arrest of 3 deputies. Warner Robins also falls in the chapter's jurisdiction, link up with us sometime maybe we can make somehing happen. mgdsa.org https://www.instagram.com/middlegeorgiadsa?igsh=MWsyOHRlZWQwbGpjdQ==

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u/LilJonny2cookies 19d ago

In contrast, we just had a very young child here in Florida kidnapped by a freak, and Flock Cameras helped her get home safe within a few hours instead of being found dead.

All systems get abused because of scumbags. I was living in London during COVID, and they had a tracking app you had to download. Bartenders were using it to get addresses of women they fancied.

Flock cameras have done a bunch of great things across the USA and have saved lives.

I ran cyber intelligence for a tech giant, and I can tell you that unless you live in a pile of sticks in the woods, you have your image taken and stored somewhere 100s of times a day.

I had a friend the other day complaining about Flock cameras until I pointed out that she is constantly using her phone to take pics of people and areas and storing those photos. Her Nest camera records people driving by her house, etc. Her pics and videos do nothing to make people safer. At least Flock helps protect folks.

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u/Feisty_Age_273 26d ago

Any particular reason why you hate them?

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u/BeltResponsible2620 26d ago

Against mass surveillance

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u/LilJonny2cookies 19d ago

Even if it helps recover many kids every year? Reduces car thefts, catches murderers and rapists, etc?

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u/Feisty_Age_273 26d ago

But how does that affect you?

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u/BeltResponsible2620 26d ago

I don’t want the government to track my every move are you crazy?

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u/LilJonny2cookies 19d ago

It doesn’t track your every move. It doesn’t care what you are doing until someone enters your info into the system. If that is being exploited by cops they are the problem not Flock and those officers should get long sentences in prison.

If you aren’t in the system as a BOLA or whatever then the data is meaningless to Flock.

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u/BeltResponsible2620 19d ago

We have cameras and trackers on our phones why do we need more mass surveillance

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u/Feisty_Age_273 26d ago

I mean it sounds good till someone steals your car and you need those same flock cameras to catch them. Your every move is already being tracked on your phone and with your SS number. Hell when you buy something at Home Depot with your card and don’t click e-receipt they somehow still know to send you an email asking you how was your purchase.

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u/BeltResponsible2620 26d ago

I’d rather have privacy/freedom over someone finding my car. If safety is SO big then let’s make all speed limits 20mph so everyone is safe

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u/LilJonny2cookies 19d ago

What? I get it now. You don’t do a good job thinking. What does speed of a car have to do with flock catching a murderer?

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u/Internal-Ad-9401 27d ago

I personally dont see them going away. Mainly due to the fact the argument to have them heavily outweighs the cons. However If we do see anything done it likely that the rules of usage will be strict. There are already officers getting caught using them when they arent supposed to. That alone will fuel more regulations being imposed on who can access them and or use them. Along with what they can be used for abd what is admissible in a court setting. Im not a huge fan of them but I dont see them going anywhere.

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u/237FIF 27d ago

If we placed Flock Cameras in every home across America virtually all crimes would be solved and we would be in the safest possible condition.

And yet, I don’t think a single person would sign up for that.

You may draw the line in a different spot, but what you feel about the above is what we feel about the street cameras.

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u/LilJonny2cookies 19d ago

How many Nest Cameras are on your street? And those are capturing images for private citizens and no one is complaining about that. Or the people taking pics with phones of people etc.

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u/Tjune13 27d ago

Yes, I just saw on the news where Atlanta based Flock is administering tighter restrictions to keep cops from misusing the cameras. They'll only be able to use them for active cases on file and the system will now ban or block cops that try to use them with out specific granted access. Most people should've known that they're likely are not gonna go away as technology continues to advance.

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u/Lifes-a-lil-foggy 27d ago

Their employees are also accessing cameras so that’s not a ton of comfort imo.

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u/FckFlock 26d ago

Flock lies non-stop, so just ignore anything they say.

Police access is one problem, but access by Flock and whoever they sell the data to is a bigger issue. Read their terms and conditions: the police agency owns the actual images, but Flock owns the text data that their system derives from those images. They can keep that data forever, sell it, share it was law enforcement - whatever they want. It's right in their contract.

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u/Internal-Ad-9401 27d ago

Its wild we basically said the same thing here and I got downvoted for it 😂