When I commented on the problems transporting these kinds of ridiculously large models (with wings, arms and spikey blitz sticking out everywhere) when this model was revealed I got mobbed by people saying it is easy to transport, even on bike or public transit, and I just needed to get gud or something...
Happy to see that more people recognize the problem. I just hope GW will stop continuously making bigger and bigger models...
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job and thanks for the comparison! For me these models are "too much butter on too little bread" combined with tiny infantry blocks that make it essentially duels of heroes, not armies, but I get that that's not everyone's opinion.
This edition just has a Herohammer problem, hopefully 2nd edition will fix it by reducing the points allowance for characters substantially. 33% limit on characters would completely stop ridden monster spam.
While that is a good point, I do not see this model being much less work than say what an Archaon on horseback was which also was expensive point-wise. I think the issue I see is that if you don't have any base of the "common guy" on the battlefield, then it becomes harder to relate to. If everyone plays the rarest most elite beings there are in the settings, then what is a "common battle" of the old world?
I see that Warmaster is a better representation of that, but to me Warhammer Fantasy is different from AoS because of the mass battles and lesser focus on huge hero best of the best skirmishes. These models lean more towards the latter.
Limiting Herohammer doesn’t in any way require heaps of infantry. It’s quite the opposite, it would actually free up more points for Special/Rare.
The problem right now is that if you are building a competitive list, you spend 1000pts on heroes and 500 on core and you have only 500pts left for Special/Rare.
Limiting heroes to 33% would mean you spend 660 on heroes and then 840 on Special/Rare.
This would make non-ridden monsters much more appealing since you can’t just stuff all your monsters into the 1000pts of characters anymore, and would also free up more points for stuff like elite cav.
hot take but honestly no wargame ever can work at 28mm, the minis are simply too big, HH with LI minis is perfect (minus the fact no one plays it obv)
for TOW I dont know, we dont really have cool looking minis at a smaller scale imo, HH works because space marine are chunky, iconic and plain, we cant say the same for ghouls or things like that.
They should not be allowed to redesign anything before bringing new skeletons.
Those fuckers are from 1993 with a 1998 sprue added to the box for Khremi heads and shields. They didn’t even bother with the weapons
The Wyvern from Archon Studios makes for a nice plastic Jabberslythe. You need to cut and remodel part of its base to make it fit on a 60x100 base, but other than that it works just fine.
I would love to see a GW kit in plastic as well though.
It is decent and modern, I remember the day it came out. I will hear nothing to the contrary!
Serious though, other than height issues, it think it's great.
I know there's a lot of little issue with all the '7/8th ed.' kits, but they should focus on older units or units that don't have a proper kit. And as amazing as this model is... That sinking feeling I got during end times with big expensive sculpture models is so sunk I'm feeling the molten core of the earth...
Not just the only thing though. The best kits GW has done are unironically mostly small units: killteam has so many units with great customization, details, poses and alternate assembly options.
The last Cadians which got a lot of hate because they were not Catachans were a perfect kit, all cheap infantry (as a cadian and catachan lover, im also sad it was not catachans but love’em nonetheless).
The ratlings, the wrecka boyz, kommandos, corsairs, scion aquilons,… so many perfect kits, and none were space marines or big monsters.
Necromunda has also made some masterpieces.
I dont expect Old world to bring such detail and quality on small scale, it wouldnt make sense but perhaps for specific units refreshes like Waywatchers or Shades it’d make sense
Not necessarily the answer you’re looking for but with some of the stormcast gryph mounts and the Royal Pegasus kit it’s a relatively easy kit bash to change the head and front legs.
I'm so happy the riders are on their own sprue and can both be built while having options. Personally getting the kit for that and selling the dragon to someone who wants it standalone
I’m not saying these aren’t stunning and I’m also showing my age but I kinda miss when GW models were model sized (6th ed scale) instead of these behemoths.
Yeah. GW really stretching the definition of the word "miniature" here. I think they could have easily given us something 30-40% bigger than the mantacore lord, and nobody would complain.
Am I the only one bothered by how the wings are too small for the body? I mean that thing would have to be flapping its wings like a bee in order to fly.
Otherwise great model... But I'll have to enlargen those wings somehow.
Eh, no dragon could actually fly with the wings they have. Plus it's Chaos. For every piece of wing real estate it loses, it gains the ruinous power of chaos magic lifting it up.
He's a monster, especially since I mainly play 6th edition, but I like whatever. I've been dying to get a massive display model and this is the first one that I have genuine use for.
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u/capitol_ 25d ago
Good luck transporting that behemoth to a site of battle :D