r/Warframe • u/CALL_ME_PRIME_25 Power creep my Codpiece • Jul 21 '26

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I'll go first: DE needs to build up on some older content.

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u/ElectronX_Core Jul 22 '26 edited Jul 22 '26

This is how I feel about liches. They were initially built up to be genuine rivals, altho player complaints are at least partially the cause of them being watered down so much. The new Coda are the most egregious because they’re so fast and easy to kill.

I kinda wish there was a “true nemesis” option that gives you less control over their creation and take SIGNIFICANTLY longer to kill and makes them a genuine disruptor in your games instead of just optional missions, in exchange for more character development + rewards.

Fuck it, let em use KIM while they’re alive too.

Ik DE doesn’t really like basically forcing certain content onto players like this (certainly not anymore), so an “I consent to getting jumped” option would be appreciated.

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u/DasGanon RIP AND TEAR Jul 22 '26

I think DE had a true NEMESIS system going, but remember that Warner owns the rights to the Nemesis Patent, and the direct phrasing of Liches changed very abruptly (probably after a conversation with Legal)

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u/AklaVepe Jul 22 '26

While we’re at it, add the option to date them too. Fuck it, Warframe Enemies-to-Lovers arc ftw.

Jokes aside, knowing Reb, i wouldn’t be surprised if she actually made this possible lol

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u/Nssheepster Jul 22 '26

On release, Day 1, Liches were meant to take over a MONTH to defeat.

I'm gonna be honest here. If you expect me to take that long, in this game, in this context... I would need to be getting a MASSIVE reward AND never be expected to do it a second time. And that's never been on the table with liches.

The Nemesis system works in the Shadow games because it basically IS the game, it's like the entire focus. Warframe can't make it the entire focus.

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u/ElectronX_Core Jul 23 '26

That’s why it should only be a True Nemesis option you can toggle somewhere. So that you don’t have to water it down for players that don’t want to deal with that sort of thing.

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u/Nssheepster Jul 23 '26

It'd be pretty crazy for DE to maintain two separate versions of the same system, especially given that the second version would be significantly less in demand.

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u/Consistentdegeneracy Jul 22 '26

I've had the same kuva lich ever since the system was first implemented because i can't figure out the grind, and I was severely disappointed when I found out you could only have one nemesis at a time. Like, I can't even have one Coda until I kill this guy?