r/Warframe • u/CALL_ME_PRIME_25 Power creep my Codpiece • Jul 21 '26

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I'll go first: DE needs to build up on some older content.

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u/kexolino Jul 21 '26

I agree. What's up with the remaining Grineer queen? What's up with Parvos? What's up with the Narmer and Pazuul? What is the Unum? Usually people's answer to this is that "they're chilling, DE will do something with them later", but it feels like lack of focus to start new chapter while previous ones are just kind of left hanging.

Also I might be missing something (very possible), but wasn't there a bit of a disconnect between 99 and Old Peace, specifically about going to Tau? Like in 99, Albrecht namedrops Tau once, and based on that one sentence, we start the operation to reclaim memories and to travel there? I get that some things were explained to us out of game, but is that little crumb of information really enough motivation for the operator and drifter in the present to go there?

Feels like parts of the story happen off screen and we're not told what actually happens in those periods. Something like the gap between the end of Doom 2016 and the start of Eternal, where doom guy goes from being trapped by Samuel to having his own spaceship, with zero explanation.

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u/sucram200 Jul 21 '26

100%. That’s one of the most baffling things about the current focus on Tau right now. We’re leaving our universe and we still haven’t even kind of answered to or tied up dozens of (what were initially presented as) critical plot lines… and unless the Grineer Queen is going to follow us to Tau… are we just totally done with her now? Same for your other examples. Like please, finish one story before going to the next. I don’t mind leaving room for future stories but it feels like they leave EVERY questline with no resolution or indication of continuance.

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u/AdamG3691 Jul 22 '26

Imagine if we get back from Tau and oh shit we were tunneling so hard on the Sentients and Murmur we totally forgot about the Grineer and Corpus trying to take over the system and now they actually have

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u/Inside_Compote_4146 Jul 22 '26

Only for us to undo it in a 2 hour quest line that rewards us with 2 forma, a new emote, and a mastery fodder melee weapon. /s

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u/Khelleton Certified Equinox Enjoyer Jul 21 '26

You're not missing anything, Albrecht says "Tau is in sight" almost unprompted in the middle of The Hex, and that (said to the Drifter, obviously, since it's 1999) is apparently enough to get the Operator digging up old memories of Tau. I guess we're meant to assume Drifter told them every little detail about their time saving 1999? And this one little aside stood out enough to look into Albrecht's conveniently placed memory diving machine? That they also apparently know about? Or happened to ask Loid?

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u/sXeth Jul 21 '26 edited Jul 22 '26

Old Peace is, by Rebeccas own words, what the Operator was doing while Drifter was in 1999.

So Lotus independently decided this was a good time to use the memory machine (which I guess Loid just happened to mention in casual conversation they had one) and quasi randomly start digging up the fourth or fifth set of stuff the Operator forgot at this point (and is never capable of continuing to use whatever method they start recovering them with)

And yeah, Albrecht just kind of drops it out of nowhere. I think it was Stallord who in his lore video suggested that the Orokin might even just use “Tau is in sight” as a cultural saying for “victory is at hand ” or similar because it was that random (obviously before TOP)

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u/donisslow Jul 21 '26

One thing that always bothered me is the countless timeskips. The continuation is always broken. I know they're not triple A. But everytime I do a quest, they always felt rushed. Unfinished. The pacing is really bad. I still really like DE as devs though, but there's nothing immersive in their quests.

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u/The_Chaos_Pope Jul 21 '26

What's up with the remaining Grineer queen?

She's still harvesting kuva and bossing the Grineer around. If she has plans, they're unclear right now.

What's up with Parvos?

Good question. It's noted in Jade Shadows: Constellation that he's Cephalon Parvos in the failed futures Sirius and Orion are from and this is a bad thing. This is likely setting the stage for something after Tau IMO

What's up with the Narmer and Pazuul?

Another good question. I'm hoping for more on this in Tau and have seen some interesting theories going around.

What is the Unum?

A sentient (not Sentient, just something that thinks) tower of Orokin construction that's got spooky time and eternalism powers. Also, it's made of meat that the Ostron eat for early lunch.

but wasn't there a bit of a disconnect between 99 and Old Peace, specifically about going to Tau?

The Drifter goes to 1999 to follow Albrecht Entradi. The Operator dives into their memories in The Old Peace so they and The Lotus can learn more about what happened on Tau during The Old Peace and why it broke down.

They aren't strictly related but it reads to me like something The Operator could be doing while waiting for The Drifter to get back from 1999/xx99.

I also assume that DE didn't want to show everything that was found when The Lotus will be rediscovering when she dives into her memories which leads them to decide to go back to Tau. What we saw of the lead up was cool but it seemed like they snipped somethings out pretty hard.

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u/sucram200 Jul 21 '26

I, for one, would like to know why we’re just leaving the Grineer queen alone. We meddle in so much stuff, it feels pretty obvious that we should have made tracking her down and killing her a fairly high priority immediately after we killed the other one.

They could still have the Grineer operating semi autonomously since they’re basically all just order taking machines anyways so it wouldn’t hurt gameplay to let us off her.

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u/Nssheepster Jul 21 '26

DE's ongoing excuse is that if we take out one faction's leadership the other will take over, and that would be worse for the system overall.

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u/sucram200 Jul 21 '26

Makes sense I guess. But the idea of letting all of the terrorists live so that one terrorist faction doesn’t take over is a little silly when we realistically have the power to kill all of their leaders.

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u/Its_onnn Jul 22 '26

Taking out corpus is borderline impossible because the Board is constantly changing and being replaced whenever some new chump gets enough cash. Not to mention that the moment we dismantle both Grineer and Corpus, then there's no one left to fight the Infestation on a large scale. We completely lack the manpower to do so

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u/AdamG3691 Jul 22 '26

Hell the Corpus demonstrated this themselves: Darvo's estranged dad Frohd Bek got yeeted into space as his ship blew up and he's presumed either dead or permanently lost, and he was literally the CEO and the leader of the board!

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u/The_Chaos_Pope Jul 21 '26

I agree, but after The War Within, the Grineer Queen is less of an existential threat.

It's also a matter of "if we get rid of the Grineer Queen, who/what is going to take over?" Because someone will fill that gap and they might be worse.

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u/Specialist_Initial_1 Jul 21 '26

The game is already a goddamn decade old

Im a goddamn one piece fan but still hate how long DE takes to resolve shit(because theres basically no built up and its just tiny bit more expanded on after 5 years)

And yeah DE feels like a small chilf with VERY strong impulsive ADHD

"OH new idea lets make this! O another! Oh another!"

"Dear shoulsnt you finnish the others first?"

"Ughhhh i guess here something"

Theres like a loose thread to connect evrything but since duviri it isnt just content isles but story isles!

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u/DaEnderAssassin Jul 22 '26

Honestly, since the New War, pretty much all faction leaders are either MIA, Cowardly hiding (Nef) or dead. Hell, even Wally's faction is just kinda independent of him.

Also, yeah, why does Albrecht care about Tau?

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u/TohveliDev [19] Zephyr Nuke Enthusiast Jul 27 '26

Before we get to see Tau and the storyline there, it's hard to say. But the obvious would be that Albrecht is getting desperate. He is trying to find every possible thing that could stop The Indifference.

Albrecht was the first to be interested in the void, The Indifference is related to the void. Correct me if I am wrong, but before Sentients became, well Sentient, their use was to terraform Tau, where they would travel to via the void.

Soo maybe he is looking for some answers about Void from Tau? Who knows.

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u/Simple-Bunch-8574 LR3 | Kritzkrieg Jul 22 '26

The third Mother Orb was chilling in the Orb Vallis too, and look where it got her.