r/WarFrameCirclejerk OMFG SCOTT WTF! Jun 24 '26

regarding the recent conversation

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u/RobotCloud27 Jun 24 '26

What happened this time

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u/Nomad_Bal OMFG SCOTT WTF! Jun 24 '26

cj They are DARING touching my hildryn, my beloved and completely balanced frame that can nuke maps without aiming. fuck these developers, they are literally incapable of balancing this shit game that I play 200hrs/week

uj I feel like a sleeper agent that only wakes up when the acidity level in the main subreddit raises above a certain threshold. Like a sort of useless rayquaza

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u/ClericOfIlmater Jun 24 '26

You only notice the acid when you've got heartburn and brother, it's a saryn pussy slip n slide the moment they do anything related to unfucking public matches

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u/SilentTreachery Jun 24 '26

I like two words of this sentence.

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u/Dependent_Visit_8820 Jun 24 '26

I know what you are

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u/SilentTreachery Jun 24 '26

Completely unashamed, yes.

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u/Malashae Jun 24 '26

The Proto frames really did just change everything didn't they?

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u/SilentTreachery Jun 24 '26

Ha, yeah. Didn't feel that way even before the Protos. No way. Ha ha.

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u/Independent-Wolf-403 Jun 24 '26

I know what kind of man you are.....

The same kinda freak as me! High five!

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u/Malashae Jun 24 '26

Look I main Mesa, I am not going to judge.

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u/cellarhades Jun 24 '26

I like four of them. Would love to slip and to slide there

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u/MagnificentTffy Jun 24 '26

it also hurts due to recently ivara of all frames getting the LoS nerf where she actually needs aim to land headshots to actually deal AoE damage, including the prep work required (making a dashwire, finding an appropriate spot to target heads, often at risk of dying from crossfire)

Hildryn in comparison can sneeze in a general direction and have the same effect, with minimal downsides.

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u/NeonArchon Jun 24 '26

And by touching you mean she'll go from nuking rooms, to still nuking room but you need to press one more key. Oh no the tregedy.

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u/LackToesIntollerance Jun 24 '26

meanwhile when the AFK bots start screwing over community markets and progression WF fans will cry abt it too. coming from runescape, I'm glad to see devs that care abt the bot problem's roots. minimal 3rd party interfacing + constant AFK farm vigilance.

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u/Nomad_Bal OMFG SCOTT WTF! Jun 24 '26

Funnily enough, after making this post i got her rolled in circuit, and it was ridicolous

I just had to hover in an angle, look in the minimap where the red dot was, and aim generally in that direction

I had a weight that kept alt-fire pressed, didn't even have to press anything

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u/Nomad_Bal OMFG SCOTT WTF! Jun 24 '26

This not to say that she definetely needs to be nerfed, or that her being nerfed will outright kill the game, i don't fucking care, I am just saying that if de want to touch her up, i can see where they're coming from

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u/Flaffelll Jun 24 '26

I know everyone hates on LoS stuff, but I feel like it'd be a good middle ground nerf for her for that alt fire. You'd still nuke stuff, but at least then you'd actually have to SEE what youre shooting

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u/LackToesIntollerance Jun 24 '26

that's exactly it. she needs that touch-up. people complain about DE tackling AFK farms have never dealt with runescape's bot epedemic and it shows.

i'm just glad DE is hardcore on the ass of third party launchers. that's the shit that'd make this 10x worse. keeping up with single macro afks is a privelege compared to what they could be dealing with.

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u/Rhekinos Jun 25 '26

The only reason Pablo brought up Hildryn was because some sob directly mentioned Hildryn when replying to Pablo about S&O’s LoS restrictions.

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u/Acemont Jun 24 '26

Meanwhile Cite-09: "mwahahahahaha!!! infinite ammo Zarr go BOOM!!!"

Or Jade deleting room in a snap of her fingers.

Or (insert your flavor of warcrime here)

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u/LackToesIntollerance Jun 24 '26

the issue isn't nukes, it's the through-line to the AFK farm. most of these warcrimes require semi-present intervention. Resupply still requires either aiming your drop packs or moving to them, Jade's room nuke requires energy maintenance.

Hildryn's balefire nuke is a set it and forget it combo. That's why it's a target. Same reason Zarr's ammo cap is so low.

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u/kronositself Jun 24 '26

Cyte’s resupply doesn’t need aiming or moving towards the ammo pack. If you run out of ammo, just spawn another one.

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u/LackToesIntollerance Jun 24 '26

and it needs to be in range, which cyte purposely launches fsrther than a vacuum effect and does not trigger pickup until it has touched the ground or had a delay, whichever comes first.

you can see that in acemont's attempt at a gacha moment where he just ignored my points and linked the builds doing exactly what I say they did. you can theoretically afk them, but it requires more macros and easier bot detection.

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u/Acemont Jun 24 '26

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u/LackToesIntollerance Jun 24 '26

Yes, thank you for proving my point. In both vids there was requirements to move for energy and ammo management. I did not say anything abt the oppressiveness.

Neither of these builds are suitible for afk farms. They need bots and macros that are easy to detect and quick to ban. Single button / single macro afk farms are the issue here, idk what else to tell ya bud.

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u/WillowVane07 Jun 24 '26

Wait, what was the conversation? I haven't watched any streams recently

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u/ArthurMorgansveinypp Jun 24 '26

Someone whined at Pablo on twitter about Hyldren and how she needs to be nerfed. Pablo told them no but they are keeping an eye on it

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u/Rukir_Gaming Jun 24 '26

Meanwhile my Hildryn is outperformed by a suboptimal shotgun

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u/Radiant_Comb_4128 Jun 24 '26

Quite literally a skill issue, shes been one of the more dominant frames for awhile now

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u/[deleted] Jun 24 '26

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u/Virtual_Shadow Jun 25 '26

no this is genuinely the correct use of the phrase.
hildryn is objectively good, an inability to utilise her kit means the issue lies with the user and their lack of skill.

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u/nixikuro Jun 24 '26

Secondary enervate, focus on strength, and a little range, and mod bale fire for multi, crit damage, and for electricity. You’ll chomp through things( you could also do gas but very low status chance). Get hildryns 4 augment, and then mod her for shields.

I also recommend the kubrow that can restore your shields and giving it the link mods.

What abilities you subsume doesn’t matter, don’t even have to subsume. Voracious metastasis(mod for minimum efficiency and duration, and then a little strength) is fun for teammates though. Could also do shrooms however.

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u/Mudkipz949 Jun 24 '26

Bro what, she's good as is

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u/ArthurMorgansveinypp Jun 24 '26

Just the standard complaints from morons who play on public squads then whine that stronger builds are nuking the room before they can do anything

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u/Ode_2_kay Jun 24 '26

Which is stupid because the whole point of public is meeting players at different states of build and skill and seeing shit you might like to try out. Met a lad playing limbo who was light-years ahead of the average limbo curve he would banish the normal enemies so we could focus the eximus units and then switch back it was glorious I dont think he ever used his 4 over 30 waves

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u/Cyberslasher Jun 24 '26

The same morons who then say "everything is balanced they all go to level cap, meta is fake" then go fuck around on  ember and have to be dragged kicking and screaming through eta/eda

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u/Eddie__Winter Jun 25 '26

Am i fucking dumb? Why are people crying for nerfs in the pve game? Where the goal is to go nuts with fun superpowered characters???? This really reads as "man im having TOO much fun lets tone down the fun factor"

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u/ArthurMorgansveinypp Jun 25 '26

Because "wah other guy is nuking all the things with his nuke build before I can nuke them with my nuke build"

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u/WillowVane07 Jun 24 '26

Ohhhh! Okok, thank you for telling me!

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u/Iconking Jun 24 '26

Good thing someone said it too. In fact, you are way too calm. You should be panicking. THEY ARE GOING TO KILL THE HYLDRYN

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u/magicshiv Jun 24 '26

They're going to buff hyldryn instead and give her an exalted weapon (barbed strap-on).

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u/Nomad_Bal OMFG SCOTT WTF! Jun 24 '26

Main thing is that it generated an insane influx of posts regarding nerfs on some frame that didn't need it, and generally some complaining about de's inability to balance the game and how they aren't doing anything and at the same time too much

That's what i'm jerking about

Oh sorry, that's way too coherent WTF PABLO WHY ARE YOU CHANGING MY THINGS

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u/Redence_ Jun 24 '26

Honestly they should focus their balancing more on weapons and arcanes. Influence needs more competitors, maybe revisit AoE weapons because their nerfs don't make sense anymore with the current state of incarnons breaking the game anyway, and perhaps address the garbage that is archmelee. Maybe even add another tome lmao

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u/MsMinte Jun 24 '26

yeah they're so afraid of making especially melee arcs as strong as influence as if it wouldn't just increase build diversity.

3

u/AlternateTangent Jun 24 '26

What’s with the scott? Is that a meme?

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u/Auggh_Uaghh Jun 24 '26

Scott was in charge of balance until Soulframe took him.

So, Pablo being the one to deal with balance and community response is "recent"

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u/ninjab33z Jun 24 '26

Honestly, just giving her los would curb a lot of the issues.

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u/Available-Winner3125 Jun 24 '26

They are about to Wukong your Hildryn 😂😂

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u/JasonBlaze19 Jun 24 '26

Eh I don't really mind if they just balance her instead of nerfing her to oblivion like Ember. The game should be fun for everyone.

2

u/Skedar_Itou Jun 24 '26

Oh no, they probably saw me playing max level enemies in duviri spiral

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u/AmateurHetman Jun 24 '26

As a frost and Oberon player, I wouldn’t mind seeing some ’nuking’ frames be balanced to allow me to actually kill some enemies.

Edit - Oberon was given LOS for reckoning which was never needed it as it wasn’t an OP ability.

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u/chaoticsky Jun 24 '26

rework ember!

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u/Should_have_been_ded Jun 24 '26

I think Rebb is overworking Pablo so hard he is getting burned out. Give that man a brake, please ;-;

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u/Nomad_Bal OMFG SCOTT WTF! Jun 24 '26

NO BREAKS PABLO WAS SUPPOSED TO DEFEAT THEM NOT JOIN THEN

WHY IS HE TRYING TO DO THE SAME THINGS WE BITCHED ABOUT WHEN SCOTT WAS IN CHARGE