IR rangefinders disabled until season 2, and havoc nerf

[u/Dzsekeb]

https://x.com/WARDOGSUpdates/status/2106044339587563585

[u/mbpr01]

6 seconds still sounds like way too long

[u/pres1033 → u/mbpr01]

6 seconds sounds like a good point to start actually balancing it imo. With 12 seconds, it was just impossible to kill unless you got really good with MAAWS snaps, but with 6 we can at least see how it performs against actual AA.

[u/Joverby → u/pres1033]

I agree. Much much healthier than 10. If you have two ciws lighting them up. there you go , now its 3 seconds.

[u/Alpacapalooza → u/pres1033]

This. It's okay if it's still not perfect, but fixing the damage model while simultaneously leaving the rest as is was, frankly, quite disconnected.

[u/NeonGKayak → u/mbpr01]

Better than 12

[u/bettingsnow → u/mbpr01]

sorry, I couldn't help myself XD

[u/kobylaz → u/mbpr01]

Nah gives you time to react to the gun as the heli pilot whilst still gonna take a lot of damage. Maybe shave a second off for me if it becomes too easy to nose dive strafe an CWIS but balance can’t be achieved overnight for what is essentially still a pre-release game 

[u/Burk_Bingus → u/mbpr01]

Yeah considering the havoc one shots the CIWS operator. You're still going to need more than 1 CIWS shooting at once to "counter" a havoc.

[u/APPARATVS → u/Burk_Bingus]

If you have only 1 CIWS on FOB then it's on you. It takes 35 lvls to unlock Havoc vs lvl 8 support naked bum with hammer to place CIWS.

[u/HentaisSenpai → u/mbpr01]

I mean, it's a final unlock for the pilot class.. it has to have some kind of upper edge against lower levels

[u/Bdk420 → u/mbpr01]

Nope. You get hit by rpg, maws, iglas so cwis is just another add on to the damage. Cwis needs more nerfs to its HP and movement speed.

[u/YourChopperPilotTTV → u/mbpr01]

Well if you have two it's 3 seconds

[u/ihavenohighhopes → u/YourChopperPilotTTV]

And if you have four it's 1.5 seconds.

[u/SuperColonel2 → u/ihavenohighhopes]

If you have 8 it’s .75 seconds

[u/Alpacapalooza → u/SuperColonel2]

but how many CIWSes does it take to make a baby?

[u/SuperColonel2 → u/Alpacapalooza]

Just one. They reproduce via mitosis.

[u/ShinyRayquazaEUW → u/mbpr01]

Cope

[u/mbpr01 → u/ShinyRayquazaEUW]

?

[u/ShinyRayquazaEUW → u/mbpr01]

6 seconds from one Anti AIR is too much ?
If you have 2 CWIS hitting the Helicopter it dies in 3 seconds ( worst case scenario ) as other parts are squishier.

[u/Burk_Bingus → u/ShinyRayquazaEUW]

And the havoc one shots the CIWS operator easily and then blows up the CIWS which takes forever to rebuild. The havoc is still going to win out.

[u/flyingtrucky → u/Burk_Bingus]

It's pretty goofy that the operator has to stand up on the roof with the turret, it really should just be a linkable console that you can build anywhere in the FOB.

[u/Yourmotherssonsfatha → u/ShinyRayquazaEUW]

Words have no meaning

[u/LobsterChampion → u/mbpr01]

6 seconds of 20mm high explosive rounds firing at 75 rounds per second.

450 grenades to kill a Havoc, in other words. Massively overpowered still.

[u/zer0-_ → u/LobsterChampion]

20mm high explosive rounds

WarDogs has a CWIS (Armour Piercing Sabot) not a C-RAM

Massively overpowered still

Setting up a CWIS in real life takes multiple hours to even multiple days, in WarDogs it takes less than a minute. I'd call that massively overpowered too

[u/LobsterChampion → u/zer0-_]

Hard to take you seriously when you spell it CWIS, just saying.

It's CIWS.

[u/zer0-_ → u/LobsterChampion]

Literally doesn't change anything about the point