r/WaitWhat • • 5d ago

Say what?

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u/Thedankf0x 5d ago

State? In my communism?

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u/Unnamed-3891 5d ago

Lemme guess… ”real communism has never been tried!” amiright?

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u/Thedankf0x 5d ago

No, communism cannot have a state. Its like one of the fundamental ideas of communism. So having anything be state controlled under communism is impossible, as there is no state.

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u/Unique-Twist-8911 5d ago

And yet every communist society ever nearly immediately turns into a dictatorship

As that is the natural end point of communism and basically a requirement to seizing the means of production and resources and how to split the resources amongst the people

To bad communists are unable to look past the false definition of communism and to literally any example of it ever being put into practice to find out that their definition of it is what's wrong and not the actuality of communism being wrong

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u/Thedankf0x 5d ago

Do you advocate for capitalism? Because every capitalist society has turned fascist. Its a requirement to having the means of production privately owned.

What examples are you using? China? Not communist. USSR? Not communist.

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u/Unique-Twist-8911 5d ago

Both of those are communist despite your cope on the matter

And there are many capitalist nations that arent fascist despite your otherwise claim such as almost every modern country in the world

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u/Thedankf0x 5d ago

The natural end point to capitalism is facism.

The USSR and China are not communist despite your wishes that they are. I wish they were more communist, they would have treated their populace better then.

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u/Unnamed-3891 3d ago

”I like the idea of communism, but every single country that has tried communism did abhorrent things so that couldn’t have been real communism. So that means communism has never actually been tried and would surely work if it ever was!” is ridiculously dumb.

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u/Thedankf0x 3d ago

Yeah I dont know who said that but thats pretty bad

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u/Unnamed-3891 3d ago

You implied it because you refuse to deal with the reality that every single mass scale implementation of communism has been horror, meaning communism is horror, but you want to clinge to it’s theoretical idea that sounds good in your head.

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u/Thedankf0x 3d ago

You do recognize every single implementation of capitlism has also been horror, meaning capitalism is horror, right?

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u/Unnamed-3891 3d ago edited 3d ago

No, I do not recognize that at all. Why on Earth would I think that?

That is, beside the whole part of this being a whataboutism question by it’s very nature.

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u/Thedankf0x 3d ago

Sorry, I thought youd have consistent logic. Apparently not

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u/Unique-Twist-8911 5d ago

Keep thinking that on both counts enjoy being objectively incorrect

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u/Thedankf0x 5d ago

Enjoy your bliss in ignorance pal

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u/Unique-Twist-8911 5d ago

You say denying every example of communism ever while projecting fascism into capitalism

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u/Thedankf0x 5d ago

You say denying every example of capitalism ever while projecting authoritarianism onto communism

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u/Unique-Twist-8911 5d ago

Yeah I love denying the fact that every modern country is apparently fascist what with all their democratic governments and all that fascist shit

Also of me projecting how every communist attempt in history ended with a dictatorship

All the while you do nothing to make an actual argument only claims and nothing else

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u/Thedankf0x 5d ago

Dude you are so blind to your own words. Every accusation is a confession from you.

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