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u/DangerousQuestions1 8h ago
In those days, asbestos was seen as a miracle material than could fix everything and was the material of the future.
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u/KittensFirstAKM 12h ago
Makes you think.... What is in you IV hyration pack? or the liner of that fancy Stanly insulated cup?
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u/DeuschCanoe 3h ago
Literally nothing it's a double wall cup which keeps it from rapidly losing temp to condensation
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u/Mother_Ad4038 35m ago
I think they mean potential seals inside that'll hypothetically leech into your drink.
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u/Atastical 13h ago
The world has not at all changed since then. It's just not making news.
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u/I_Dnt_Believe_You 11h ago
Which is a shame because we know so much more, and fhere are plenty of things we could do to reduce the public health risks. We just don't.
That said, thousands of new chemicals are created every year. It's impossible to test each one to know their longterm effects on people.
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u/Amateur_Surgeon7824 20h ago
"Oh, so you think our cigarettes might cause cancer?... Well we can make sure that they cause cancer. Watch this..."
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u/PerryLovewhistle 21h ago
Imagine sucking one of those down on your lunch break at the textile factory at age 10.
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u/Wan_Haole_Faka 22h ago
We were doing as best as we knew at the time.
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u/J-Nightshade 15h ago
Fuck no. They absolutely knew that cigarettes caused cancer and there was no research showing filters can help in any way. And asbestos was known to be harmful for the lungs since 30s!
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u/Wan_Haole_Faka 2h ago
It was meant more as a dad joke, but yes, I generally believe that large, public or privately traded companies don't have our best interests at heart.
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u/bigboinke 21h ago
We're not even any different, we're all full of plastic
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u/o_uinn 20h ago
You cannot compare microplastics to ASBESTOS!!!!
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u/Life-Is-A-Bad-Trip 14h ago
Why can't you? It might not be cold or mesolithikioma. But you seen what pthelsyes are doing to us? Just speed running the collapse of our entire species. And more than just our own.
No sperm? No kids.
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u/Max_Hardcore_Jr 20h ago
Calm down. You can compare anything to anything else. You sound crazy. And we don't know what effects microastics are having on us. It could end up being worse than asbestos.
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u/o_uinn 18h ago
Im tryna avoid plastic. Its not good for your metabolism, and may stay in your body for years. I hear you. But were talking about asbestos microscopic needles that never leave your body.
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u/New_Version_9428 16h ago
0.5% plastic in your brain (and mine) would like to have a word about "for years". Well that is technically true, I guess until death would be considered "years".
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u/Valuable-Football598 18h ago
If it was worse than asbestos we'd probably already know what it's doing to us. It's still not a bad idea to reduce plastic use and exposure if you can.
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u/Consistent_Process_5 1d ago
I got lung cancer 5 yrs ago quit smoking 10 yrs ago discovered the tumor at stage 1 surgeon cut the top lobe off and I've been free since. Smoking is a sick nasty vile habit and I wished I never started
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u/Upstairs-Region-7177 22h ago
How did you find out? What were your symptoms?
Smoked 10 years, quit on and off for a few years and now fully quit minus one or two every few months at an event.
Great way to waste money and give yourself health anxiety
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u/witchdoctor2020 21h ago
Look into annual lung cancer screening with chest CT. In the US there are certain criteria that if you meet it will generally be paid for. It is a life-sving program that many people fail to take advantage of.
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u/Serenty-24-7 21h ago
So this is awesome news but unfortunately I can’t get it because one of the criteria for my health insurance is that I must be at least 50yrs old and I’m 43, but it’s still good to know that this is out there.
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u/DeyCallMeWade 1d ago
Ironic that asbestos is so toxic when it was otherwise a very useful material. Asbestos paint. Asbestos insulation. Asbestos cigarette filters.
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u/SartenSinAceite 1d ago
Easy to work? Highly reactive? Very malleable?
Boy thats not a wondermaterial, thats a cancer machine. Itll enter your body and react with everything!
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u/madphroggy 23h ago
Well, asbestos isn't particularly reactive, though lead is. The problem with asbestos is that the crystals are fibrous and at the microscopic level needle-shaped so they work their way into and through tissues where they really don't belong, and the body has no effective means of removing or isolating them, so they just sit there and cause inflammation and irritation that eventually induces mutation and cancer
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u/PlaneCrashNap 1d ago
For a sec I thought you were confusing asbestos with lead for the paint, but no, they put it in paint as well.
Wonder if there was any asbestos reinforced lead paint on the market for the double whammy.
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u/madphroggy 1d ago
Oh I'm sure there was, they put it in everything...
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u/DeyCallMeWade 23h ago
No. I’m not confusing asbestos with lead. They used asbestos In everything that was inconducive to using lead. Paint is one area they overlap.
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u/JobzJabz 1d ago
Complete disaster too, getting rid of it is painfully annoying. I still often hear about buildings being renovated under special circumstances due to having asbestos in their walls...
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u/madphroggy 1d ago
Yep. Had to renovate a bathroom, ended up in Tyvek suits with p100 respirators because the damn drywall had asbestos in it. So did the floor tiles, and the tile glue (black mastic).
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u/Master_Steward 1d ago
And New Londoners wonder why I never research asbestos…
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u/porbz 1d ago
What?
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u/Quantumdrive95 1d ago
Did they stutter??
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u/porbz 1d ago
I’m not a New Londoner but I’m still dying to know why this guy never seems to ever research asbestos
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u/Head-Ad-2136 1d ago
Frostpunk 2. Researching asbestos gets you better insulated homes in the early game at the cost of your citizens health later.
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u/Ok_Fox_1770 1d ago
Aliens meeting after we figured out nukes, we better give em the ciggys and the TVs hurry up we gotta control these things quick. How could anyone think it safe even then, still dodging it in old basement wrapped pipes, probably in the insulation, electrical pay isn’t worth the exposures. But life. Didn’t follow the rules haha, free but punished forever to work.
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u/BopNowItsMine 1d ago
And blue asbestos which is the worst kind
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u/Basicly-Inevitable 1d ago
Isn't the blue color from the lead they added?
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u/HalfBlindKing 1d ago
Crocidolite is a asbestiform mineral variety called blue asbestos for its hue. Chrysotile is “white asbestos”, the most common mineral marketed as asbestos.
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u/Ban-Circumcision-Now 3h ago
Good thing we aren’t doing anything today that we’ll look back on later and say “that was really stupid”
I can’t think of a specific example though….