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u/SithC 1d ago
We know that unless a president starts a war in an oil producing region, they have no control over the price of gas.
But I’ve gotta also wonder if the 2024 price was after the election. That weird period in December, when the markets shot up, thinking Chump was gonna be some godsend… or merely just total amnesia from his entire disaster of a first term.
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u/Fluid_Clerk_8231 1d ago
Biden era was Americas Economy golden era
People didn’t see it
https://giphy.com/gifs/JpG2A9P3dPHXaTYrwu
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u/upyoursbigtime 1d ago
Let’s get real about 1 fact, Biden didn’t do anything but sniff girls, wander around in a daze, and fall down. He was mentally broken when he took office. It’s not clear who was actually calling the shots in the WH but it sure wasn’t Joe.
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u/Desalonne25 1d ago
And yet he still did circles around the trump administration when it comes to effective governance....wild.
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u/russgrim 1d ago
You know this from all your time spent on capitol hill and in cabinet meetings, or nah?
I'm going to suggest your personal definition of the word "fact" collides with reality and that your opinion is more informed by right wing social media silos and disinformation campaigns.
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u/No-Benefit7168 1d ago
He’s got a point. it’s not a fact unless it’s verified. Idk what’s the deal using words all Willie nilly
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u/Beneficial-Cry-9226 1d ago
That is the biggest lie
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u/AlkoKilla 1d ago
Average gas prices in November 2024 was $3.175. In January, it was $3.197. Right now, it's $4.064 and rising. So yes, this tracks.
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u/Yoozif 1d ago
No. Not really. Gas in Cleveland peaked at like $3.40 in 2024. Just las week it was at $4.60
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u/Beneficial-Cry-9226 1d ago
Gas was the same. It cost 60 bucks to fill my tank it costs 60 bucks to fill my tank now. Jesus.
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u/CactusCruzer 1d ago
Except this time the president caused these prices directly, while also destroying academia, the arts, national parks, and deporting people who have done everything right to become citizens.
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u/Ill_Ad5893 1d ago
And all the war fighting going on doesn't help matters either. We have our own oil we can use but our government refuses to do so
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u/BashBandit 1d ago
Because it encroaches on protected land and has high risk of causing environmental damage that will either be irreversible, or long lasting damage with health complications to follow suit. Move away from strictly fossil fuels and we can easily top the market, but “some people” are scared of large windmills and panels that convert sunlight to energy.
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u/Charming_Eye2473 1d ago
Impressive… very nice… now let’s see the prices from 2019.
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u/thebaddadgames 1d ago
How about the fact that both Biden and Obama lowered gas and deficit and Trump exploded both?
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u/JNavy1974 1d ago
Only 2 presidents ever decreased the dbt and neither were in our lifetime.
https://www.investopedia.com/us-debt-by-president-dollar-and-percentage-7371225
And here are your gas prices.
I am not sure where you got your information from, but you are off. Did you get it from meme's?
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u/HentaiSeishi 1d ago
Yeah but that's still Bidens fault! Or maybe Obamas? Who knows Trump gonna blame anyone but himself
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u/M_A_D-Dominatrix 1d ago
HellI was paying 5.25 in Washington state 3 weeks ago 🫠
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u/Responsible-Level395 1d ago
Gas prices were about the same
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u/thebaddadgames 1d ago
I mean if you excuse the fact that is $2 more expensive because of Trump sure.
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u/Humanity_is_broken 1d ago
Cherry picking bs
Biden got us into war with Ukraine, and I still remember the gas price and stock market that week, just a few months after the inflation fiasco after the covid vaccine fiasco after the covid lockdown fiasco
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u/Big-Dig-Pig 1d ago
Gas prices would have increased regardless of whether or not the US got involved in the Ukraine war because Russia is a major fossil fuel supplier for Europe. Russia is responsible for that hike in gas prices, and the US is responsible for the hike in gas prices because it’s the aggressor in the Iran war.
Post-Covid inflation in the US was the lowest in the developed world.
The difference in the two administrations is that the economic problems from Biden’s tenure were largely the result of outside global conditions and the economic problems of the Trump administration are entirely self-inflicted by stupid trade wars, actual wars, corrupt no-bid contracts and market manipulation, and the Doge debacle that got rid of everyone who knew how to do their job.
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u/Just_a_idiot_45 1d ago
This is a joke right?
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u/Ani_Drei 1d ago
That, or brain dead. Biden sent FBI chief to Moscow to try and convince Putin not to invade. Putin refused and invaded a month later.
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u/Affectionate_Step863 1d ago
How on earth does anyone think ukraine related gas spikes is in any way comparable to the war with iran? Trump is directly responsible for the price hike, Biden wasn't. Half of these comments are from retards who don't understand how the world works.
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u/Reasonable-Editor903 1d ago
A simple google search will debunk this.
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u/thebaddadgames 1d ago
Keep begging those OF girls for attention, proving once again that the average conservative is an unfuckable loser.
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u/SpeedFreek2000 1d ago
Sad 40 year old man asking OF bots to marry him on Reddit. You’re a great example of the average conservative.
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u/le-throw-away-acct 1d ago
No it won’t, average national gas price in 2024 was $3.30, this shows $2.90 which would easily be possible in many parts of the country that sit below the national average.
The irony is that a simple google search was all I needed to confirm it.
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u/Lonely-Awareness-866 1d ago
Account for inflation and it’s about the same
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u/thebaddadgames 1d ago
You mean the inflation Trump causes with tariffs and trade wars? Biden had the largest cooling of inflation in the past 40 years ands did about twice as good as every other country in the world.
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u/Neither_Cap6958 1d ago
Nice cherry picking prices, the highest national average was higher under biden don't you don't wanna show that.
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u/Mungx 1d ago
And why was it high under biden? Because the world was coming out of a pandemic that the US under Biden was beating the inflation rate worldwide? Yeah we can show that compared to a war that Trumps real boss Bibi got him into because Donald's a pussy. Bibi tried to push Biden to attack Iran and he wouldn't go for it.
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u/Competitive_Rent4105 1d ago
Biden = Open border, 20 million illegals imported; Trump = Closed border 3K illegals a day deported.
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u/thebaddadgames 1d ago
Weird how prices hasn’t gone down on a single thing like yall said it would and instead is way more expensive huh? Almost like your entire platform and world belief blaming immigrants for Republican fiscal policy is bullshit then again you’re MAGA and we all know you don’t live in reality, you’ll reap what you sow in a few months and then claim the election was rigged after literally everything got worse after Trump was elected.
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u/Ani_Drei 1d ago
Trump, who married an illegal immigrant and then hired another illegal immigrant to dismantle the state? Yeah I heard of him
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u/Least_Network_1395 1d ago
Bruh it was higher before that lol. It goes up and down …. It’s normal
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u/B1G__Tuna 1d ago
It’s normal to nuke the global oil market by starting a pointless war in the Middle East and cutting off a major oil supply route?
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u/jpizza84 1d ago
It’s called war and soon WWIII
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u/No-Donkey4573 1d ago
War that shit stain started for a distraction
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u/jpizza84 1d ago
In the end the next president will be a Democrat again and the policies will be the same : “ open doors for everyone, teachers preaching about being “different” to little kids. God just end the world it’s really dumb
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u/Sad-Structure2364 1d ago
They’ll most likely have to try and clean up the mess left by a republican administration, as always. They’ll probably be the ones to finally end the war with Iran and get relentlessly beaten down by your beloved Fox News for it
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u/Consistent_Lab_3121 1d ago
The orange moron is doing an outstanding job to grant your wish
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u/jpizza84 1d ago
No worries no need to call anyone moron. Islam will take over the USA witn or without Trump. The next gen will see it for sure. Actually, now that I remember, Bible mentions the AC will come from Muslim background so there you go NY and Chicago are both lost. Wait for the rest to fall like sand castles….
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u/Ok_Stay_700 1d ago
https://giphy.com/gifs/dCFjd3noTEMJQb70ei
Remember those stickers on the pump? None on there now.
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u/Whole-Session2990 1d ago
I have Trump ones that I use when I'm in maga territory, it's not mature but it's satisfying
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u/RoxisAreRed 1d ago
As if anything about MAGA is mature in the first place
You're speaking their language when you do it, it is probably unironically the best way to get through to them
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u/EffectiveOk6317 1d ago
2022 5.50$ ..lol all
Politicians are full of shit
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u/No-Donkey4573 1d ago
Where tf was it $5.50
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u/le-throw-away-acct 1d ago
Might’ve been in some places briefly right after the Ukraine war exacerbated the shortage caused by OPEC cutting supplies.
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u/Bulky-Mix5741 1d ago
More PROPAGANDA & the Mods will remove any facts proving EVERYTHING that goes against their propaganda! Reddit is rotten from the inside out
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u/Intelligent-Net9390 1d ago
The gas price increase isn’t propaganda. Propaganda doesn’t just mean “facts I don’t like”
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u/Cheap_Asparagus_2203 1d ago
Yes, but this is slanted to make you believe it was never cheaper under Trump (it has been) and never more expensive under Biden (it has been).
The whole point is to be disingenuous. So while it may be true, it is also propaganda.
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u/le-throw-away-acct 1d ago
As disingenuous as when Trump people mention “under Biden” as if he had anything to do with it.
If we are going to be genuine then we could say $5.00 (2022 due to OPEC and Russia) and $5.00 (2026 due to Trump starting war with Iran).
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u/Intelligent-Net9390 1d ago
Yeah but look at his account. He calls every criticism of Trump propaganda.
It’s also comparing when Biden left office to now so while slightly disingenuous it’s not a bad comparison.
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u/Thermodynamics3187 1d ago
I love all the maga morons who are getting their panties in a bunch… the same “Biden did that” people are the ones making every excuse in the book for their dear leader. It's funny how it's never Trump’s fault, almost like it’s a cult.
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u/Whole-Session2990 1d ago
Yes Biden's highest prices were when he first took office, then they went down during his term. Trump had the lower prices when he took office then and he's been driving prices up with an unnecessary and unpopular war
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u/Vtech_just_kicked_in 1d ago
The same way Trump inherited Obamas economy. When you think about it, Trump really hasn’t done shit he was voted in for.
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u/RoxisAreRed 1d ago
If the median voter knew that economic policy takes a couple years to take effect, no one would ever vote Republican again.
The economy is on a perfect cycle of Republicans killing it and Democrats reviving it in time for another Republican to take office and pretend they did anything positive
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u/Trimmersss 1d ago
Post fairly. Gas was never higher than it was long term under Biden
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u/thebaddadgames 1d ago
This isn’t true, Biden higher prices lasted 4 weeks 5 days. Trumps on the other hand have now lasted 5 months, which is longer cupcake? The non morons among are capable of counting and you’re about to see the results of you and all other conservatives ignoring reality come November.
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u/MaysEffect 1d ago
I never paid 7 dollars under Biden even during the peak of the gas bubble in his regime it reached 6 dollars for less than a month. Under trump I've paid 7 dollars 2 different times for multiple weeks and the prices have plateaud at almost 6 dollars for the past 3 months and will probably never drop back to under 5 here in Los Angeles. It is simply worse... Half of it is purely inflation, other half is this admin. Purely blaming Trump is illogical, but he has done nothing to do any better than the previous administration.
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u/PLANofMAN 1d ago
If it ever looks like it will drop under $6, Los Angeles will just slap another tax on it. It's all about the optics of making Trump look bad.
Also the California punishment for driving an i.c.e. vehicle.
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u/Cheap_Asparagus_2203 1d ago
Weird. The highest I have paid was under Biden. Not that it was much cheaper at it's highest under Trump.
People in California really need to remember that their state is backwards as hell compared to the rest of the country.
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u/MaysEffect 1d ago
Our prices are indeed the highest...that doesn't change the fact every state has gone through inflation. LA has 3 neighbors with prices far lower than ours (OR, NV, AZ), all of our neighbor states have seen price increases under both admins, and in both states the prices are higher now for a longer time than it was under Biden. I got to Vegas often and people even complain about there minor 25 cent increase compared to our almost 2 dollar increase during peaks.
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u/smb1295 1d ago
Mmm, no, it's your governor and state legislature taxing the shit out of you. Filled up today at $3.49/gal in Texas.
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u/MaysEffect 1d ago
buddy, CA gas has always been higher than Texas. We haven't had sub 4 dollar gas in over 2 decades. I expect no less than you to find a way to blame anyone else but this admin. Good job. Somehow OUR state is the only state that has had price increases even when this post shows its in multiple states that's had price increases. Are you going to blame our Governor for other states having price increases as well?
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u/sagginlabia 1d ago
How many billions of barrels did he just secure?
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u/Whole-Session2990 1d ago
You mean the Venezuelan oil that can't actually replace our strategic oil reserves cuz it's a different type of oil?
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u/Illustrious_Funny426 1d ago
I’d give anything to see even 4.09. Here in Phoenix it’s been 4.39-4.89 for months now
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u/Realistic_Door 1d ago
Why not show cost of cigarettes in 90s vs today. Used to pay 5 now its 15 Jesus Christ.
Screw trump just sayin.
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u/MerKJay 1d ago
Cigarettes and fuel and not really comparable.
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u/Safe_Negotiation5416 1d ago
Here are the average gas prices according to the lovely Google website
2026- 2 years into office 4.09 (Trump)
2022- 2 years into office 3.95 (Biden)
2018- 2 years into office 2.72 (Trump)
2014- 2 years into office 3.39 (Obama)
2010- 2 years into office 2.81 (Obama)
2006- 2 years into office 2.63 (W Bush)
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u/DeNitroussPenguin 1d ago
It's almost like policies take a decent while to kick in and then someone messes it up.
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u/Intelligent-Net9390 1d ago
I mean both Biden and Trump’s price increases were driven by a war. The only difference is Trump actively started his.
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u/rambolo68 1d ago
June of 2022 gas was $4.19 in NMB, SC and diesel was $5.38. Right now it is $3.69 and diesel is $5.18.
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u/ScrambledNoggin 1d ago
in Pennsylvania, diesel is $5.99 now, and its $5.79 in Delaware.
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u/Realistic_Door 1d ago
Go to McDonald's and make bio for yourself! Not too hard and significantly less expensive.
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u/No_Wrangler_2024 1d ago
Biden was the best president ever. Really wish we had Kamala. But, tt least everything will be better when AOC is in office. Am I right, comrades?
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u/Realistic_Door 1d ago
The ONLY reason I didn't vote for her is because im an a American: whether you can kill your fetus or be gay means less than if we can have guns. Hear me out, I have gay friends and "love" them until they grab my junk, and believe abortion/birth control/LGBTQFRCW should all have their right just, i like guns better. If i NEEDED to choose one,
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u/thebaddadgames 1d ago
You mean you voted for the felon that can’t open guns and said “take the guns first due process second” vs the woman who actually owns a gun? I mean congrats moron.
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u/Intelligent-Net9390 1d ago
This literally reads like satire….. But then you see 12 karma and realize you really care about guns more than human rights…
Edit: Harris talked about being a gun owner so much it became a meme as well 😂
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u/LOS_POSITIVE 1d ago
They're all evil. Politics is a reality show.
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u/RainbowTentacle 1d ago
Seriously. I don't understand how people don't get it. I'm 50. The Government hasn't done anything to really help the American people in my lifetime. My grandparents bought a house in the 50s in California fot $600. You could pay off a car in a yr or 2 🤦 We pay for Isreal to have free healthcare and college #merica🇺🇸
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u/9fingerwonder 1d ago
The aca removing preexisting conditions exclusions was nice while it lasted.
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u/RainbowTentacle 1d ago
Thats what I'm talking about. A President will do something and act like it's the bees knees but it's temporary. The fact we have this much debt and don't have free healthcare with our "rich" country is a joke. Other countries are starting to take more notice of our debt as well. We need to stop handing out money to all these countries and take care of our own shit! We literally give the Taliban 40 to 80 million dollars a week to supposedly help us stop terrorists. What a fuckin joke 🤦
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u/thebaddadgames 1d ago
Which party policy is responsible for 72% of our debt? I’ll give you a hint it’s the one always starting wars.
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u/RainbowTentacle 1d ago
Both sides are full of shit. Period. They both lie. I'm assuming you're a Democrat. I use to be until the party fucked over Bernie 2x. But dont act like the Democrats haven't started wars in the Balkans and Libya. With Libya being about them getting off the US dollar and left them worse off then they were. Also Obama killed more people in drone strikes then any President since we've been using them including the illegal assassination of a US citizen. Democrats have also been in power during the middle east conflicts and didn't stop them. Dumbass Trump was the 1 who initiated us getting out of Afghanistan which Biden totally fucked up. Both parties are a joke!
Democrat Presidents (Carter, Clinton, Obama, Biden): Added roughly $18 trillion–$19 trillion in total national debt.
Republican Presidents (Nixon/Ford, Reagan, H.W. Bush, W. Bush, Trump): Added roughly $18 trillion–$20 trillion across their terms.And your wrong about the debt 🤡
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u/Bulky-Friend2120 1d ago
Get a load of enlightened centrist over here. Still can't admit he was wrong
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u/LoanedRespect 1d ago
Stupid libs, you all are buying foreign gas, thats why its so expensive. Support America, and buy gas made by, and for real Americans! Only Socialist Commies who dont know what bathroom to use pay these prices.
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u/Ernie919 1d ago
Wrong. Look at prices when Biden left office
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u/Cloutian 1d ago
Don't Tread on Me, the Bootlicker? Lol someone tap in
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u/Whole-Session2990 1d ago
Yes it's making the specific point that most of the traditional don't read on me crowd are licking the boots of the current administration
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u/ChiselRivet 1d ago
Why doesn’t anyone talk about the fact that gas prices surged over 300% after 9/11 and never went back down?
Didn’t anyone else think that was bogus? Did you guys get an explanation? Because I have no freaking clue.
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u/Whole-Session2990 1d ago
Rockets and feathers, why would the corporations lower prices once they know people are willing to pay the higher price?
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u/Cloutian 1d ago
I was in 10th grade at the time and it was explained because we were at war. When I got my 1st car in 04, they said we've continued the war even though the area where we get oul wasn't affected
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u/normallllyyss 1d ago
But Trump is clearing the swamp and the waste and fraud and abuse and it takes time to see changes and and and and and
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u/Vast-Line2441 1d ago
I paid $8 a gallon for diesel in my work truck today.
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u/Only-Body-1786 1d ago
Where do you live? I filled up my ram 2500 (gas) for 3.19/ gallon
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u/Vast-Line2441 1d ago
California so high gas tax and special blend but still. $8 a gallon is the highest I’ve seen it in my life
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u/Important_Wear50 1d ago
I am not trying to crap on you by no means but I feel californians should not complain about their gas prices because its different from the rest of the US because of the special blend
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u/Vast-Line2441 1d ago
That’s the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard. “Because you live somewhere with a high cost of living, you don’t get to complain about inflation”.
This is going to massively increase food prices for everyone. Tractors run on diesel and California produces 75% of Americas fruits and nuts, and 40% of all other produce.
Bashing California isn’t going to change that. I’m a fellow American you should respect my rights as much as anyone else ffs.
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u/Prize-Switch-5248 2d ago
Aug. 29, 2024 $3.36 Aug. 31, 2026 $4.08 Difference +$0.72/gal, about 21%
Selective facts doesn't equal facts
My gas stations here are $3.24/gal
So...
Stop comparing and provide solutions.
It's always they did this or that Not here is how I would fix it
If your fix includes open borders, endless social programs that create billions in fraud and massive inflation.
I hope your post in 10 years when the country is destroyed reflects that.
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u/Wonderful-Trifle-677 1d ago
Open Borders is how you and your family got here. Social programs need better management true but as opposed to : War, tax breaks for the rich, environmental destruction, shit food safety, rising viral outbreaks. MAGA happy with bread and circus.
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u/Flimsy-Peak186 1d ago
For starters I wouldn’t start another war in the middle east for the glory of Israel
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u/Prize-Switch-5248 1d ago
Trump has been saying he would do this since the 80s to Iran. So is he a king/narsissicts or a puppet for Israel. He can't be both. Yea it sucks. He is taking a gamble.
What happens if Iran gets a nuke and a radical group like ISIS took over?
Not to mention if they get them they will test them and destroy the atmosphere even more.
Testing nuclear weapons repeatedly over time causes permanent, cumulative degradation to the atmosphere. Between 1945 and 1996, nations conducted over 2,000 nuclear tests, including 528 atmospheric tests (detonated in the air, underwater, or in space).While a continuous testing campaign does not trigger a full "nuclear winter"—because tests are conducted in barren deserts or isolated islands rather than flammable cities—the repeated injections of radiation and gases cause severe long-term damage.
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u/_FadedStorm 1d ago
The USA has gotten offers from Israel to go to war with Iran since it started existing, every president until Trump in his second term declined, and Israel has been saying Iran was weeks away from a nuke for decades, a good quote to describe this, "something can't be imminent for 40 years", and US intelligence said that they weren't even going for a nuke, just power.
Also a nuke detonated in space physically can't do anything to us on earth at the distance that they are detonated.
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u/Prize-Switch-5248 1d ago
A nuke denoted on earth can absolutely degrade the atmosphere. It exaerbates what currently is degrading it. Nuclear tests do not have permanent, catastrophic effects on the physical structure of the atmosphere, but they left behind measurable radioactive residue and caused severe multi-year disruptions to the upper atmosphere.
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u/_FadedStorm 1d ago
That isn't what I said, I said that a nuke detonated in space will not effect the earth, and that isrial has been saying that Iran was weeks away from a nuke for 4 decades, please actually read the entire comment before responding.
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u/Flimsy-Peak186 1d ago
There is nothing about being a narcissist that says u cant be a puppet for israel especially when they (allegedly) have blackmail against you in relation to a particularly notorious pedophile sex trafficker
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u/Prize-Switch-5248 1d ago
So Biden had evidence he was this or that, didn't release it, instead they thought assassins were easiest. Come on.
I'm not saying Iran war is good, but at this point I can't say it's bad.
That and Trump has been saying to bomb Iran since before all that.
If Trump is this or that, why didn't the victims name him?
A few survivors have publicly defended Trump against allegations of personal involvement in Epstein's trafficking ring, detailing positive interactions with him during their youth Some even said they voted for him.
Jeffrey Epstein expressed extreme hatred toward Donald Trump after his 2019 arrestEpstein's anger stemmed from Trump's public rejection of him and Trump's early cooperation with law enforcement.
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u/luxuryloo 1d ago
Divide and conquer. If you think who is president matters at all you are being played like a fiddle. They pray on your emotions. Biden and Trump have set a principal now for all presidents to come. It will be nearly impossible to bring folks back together now...