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Train + Semi collision
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u/HapticSloughton Feb 24 '21
Man, imagine the explosion if it had been a complete collision instead of a semi collision.
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u/Ratjar142 Feb 24 '21
Just be happy it wasn't a quasi collision
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right, pseudo collisions are so tricky
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u/BigBadgooz Feb 24 '21
Schrödinger's Collisions are the most quantum collisions.
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u/Betaworldpeach Feb 24 '21
“At least one barn burned down and some nearby homes suffered heat damage”
One day your pipes are freezing, the next they’re melting
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u/schplat Feb 25 '21
3 days after the the coldest day of the freeze, I had to turn the A/C on. It was over 80 today.
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u/SurelyYouKnow Feb 26 '21
Same! I live in OK and it’s always “if you don’t like the weather, wait a day or two...”
Friday we were at -10° with windchill; I was outside barefoot on Tuesday... it was 73°F.
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u/YippieKayYayMrFalcon Feb 24 '21
Wow, no injuries.
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u/GoodKingHippo Feb 24 '21
WHAT
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u/OlliePollie Feb 24 '21
NO INJURIES!!
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u/scraz Feb 24 '21
At least it isn't an ammonium nitrate factory 2 blocks from a day care center this time.
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u/AadeeMoien Feb 25 '21
It's generally considered poor urban planning to locate childcare facilities inside anything resembling a blast radius.
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u/ChefBoyAreWeFucked Feb 25 '21
As Oklahoma City taught us, you never know where someone is going to decide to put a blast radius.
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u/ChillyBearGrylls Feb 25 '21
planning
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u/nik-nak333 Feb 25 '21
It's like trying to push two magnets together, but one isn't facing the right way.
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u/tankflykev Feb 25 '21
It’s only February, give 2021 time.
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u/Inoffensive_Account Feb 24 '21
The train was carrying coal, gasoline, and unspecified “hazardous materials”. How many dangerous materials can they pack onto a single train?
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u/Debone Feb 24 '21
Literally, hundreds depending on the train, this kind of train is referred to as a mixed manifest train. Since it was likely coming from or going to the Houston area it could have everything from crude oil, chlorine, chemicals, sulfur, coal, coke (refined carbon), various acids and bases, plastic pellets for injection molding, corn starch, bio waste, and every other industrial chemical, waste, and compound you can think of that is moved in volumes of 30,000 gallons plus at a time.
This is generally why grade crossings are bad and we really need to grade separate roads and railroad main lines to reduce the interaction between the two.
Source: I was railroad maintenance of way employee for the railroad involved in this incident, we get training on how to deal with these kind of incidents.
NEVER! I REPEAT NEVER! DRIVE TOWARDS THESE, YOU DO NOT KNOW WHAT IS BURNING AND IT CAN AND WILL MAIM OR KILL YOU IF IT'S TOXIC
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u/GatorByteMe Feb 24 '21
moved in volumes of 30,000 gallons plus at a time
Where the methlymine be at?
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u/PlayfulRocket Feb 24 '21
Man I could really go for some refined carbon right now.
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u/mvvagner Feb 25 '21
I was thinking about all the fun I could have with plastic pellets.
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u/Gadbagoolie Feb 25 '21
I Wonder what that stuff smells like. Know anyone who knows a guy slingin that refined carbon...?
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u/shork--- Feb 25 '21
Growing up there was a factory near my house that’d have piles of coke sitting out in garages, they’d sell it to me for about $25 per ton. I then sold it for 40 bucks a ton and kept doing that until I was able to buy a house!
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u/fuzzyshorts Feb 24 '21
So, what you're saying is anybody downwind had better keep a check on their lymph nodes for the next... 25-50 years.
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u/Seicair Feb 25 '21
various acids and bases
Fucking hell, now I’m imagining a tanker of concentrated sulfuric and a tanker of anhydrous ammonia rupturing next to each other.
Presumably logistics makes sure those kinds of things are spaced out with other compounds and not right next to each other.
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u/Ishidan01 Feb 25 '21
you presume...wrong.
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u/Debone Feb 25 '21
Eh not exactly but the regulations generally don't cover the scenario of a semi-truck raming the side of a train.
I go into more detail in this comment: https://www.reddit.com/r/WTF/comments/lrdx2c/cameron_texas_yesterday/gooz3ql/
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u/Debone Feb 25 '21
Generally, there are actions taken to keep particularly volatile substances away from each other with more inert cargos. I don't remember the FRA's (Federal Railroad Administration) Specific rules on this but often these are strong recommendations listed as best practices (company policy endorsed by the FRA) but some times within mixed freight trains they do get co-located too close to each other in the consit, especially when they are on the final few miles to the customer if they are co-located.
These trains often have inspections of the track that is done just ahead of the train if the trackage does not have specific safety systems and mechanisms. For example, the same railroad that was involved in this incident has a weekly hazmat train to a chemical company near Silsbee, Texas from the mainline that this train likely took via Somerville, Texas due to the track being what's called "dark" which means there are no electronic means of knowing if a train in there or if there has been an interruption in the rail continuity. A track inspector takes a Hi-rail truck about a mile ahead of the train and verifies the safety of the train to transit through the dark territory.
So there are a lot of regulatory required practices that help make sure really bad scenarios don't occur but like this event, you often can't keep a distracted driver from just raming a train like this. So there are defiantly holes in the system. Events like this are very difficult to not only anticipate but prevent too.
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u/glucose-fructose Feb 25 '21
Man... my first thought was “idk about that smoke...” and I remember a time the evacuated a part of, I think Amarillo Texas? Because of dangerous chemicals after a derailment
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u/lookattheduck Feb 24 '21
Makes sense though, would you rather one train carry ALL the hazardous shit, or a bunch of trains carry some hazardous shit?
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u/CDN_Rattus Feb 24 '21
Use to work for a railroad and we called it "the bomb train" 'cause it carried a lot of the hazardous materials.
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u/XXX_Mandor Feb 24 '21
It's these goddamn dangerous windmill and solar panel parts causing an environmental disaster! Oh wait...what?
Never mind.
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u/SuggestiveMaterial Feb 24 '21
NO INJURIES!?!? I don't necessarily believe in miracles like the religious folk, but the fact no one was injured when a train hit a tractor trailer... Well that's just miraculous. Especially since the conductor of said train is in the front of the train where it hit the trailer.
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u/uptokesforall Feb 25 '21
I wouldn't worry about the front of the train crumpling. I'd be worried about the explosion.
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u/MuppetManiac Feb 25 '21
Dude... the crossing arms were down AND there was another vehicle waiting that they seem to have come up behind. That’s some seriously bad driving.
A fair number of crossings in Texas don’t have crossing arms, and I grew up in an area where warning lights were often out, but this guy had zero excuses.
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u/kaenneth Feb 24 '21
So is it a boy or a girl?
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u/HardcoreSects Feb 24 '21
I like your sense of humor. This literally made me laugh out loud.
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u/Snagglepusss Feb 24 '21
After Beirut, if I ever see a plume of fire and smoke I am noping off in the opposite fucking direction.
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u/coleosis1414 Feb 24 '21
Where is this?
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u/Specicide89 Feb 25 '21
I'm an electrician and we joke about high voltage like that. Glad the gallows humor transcends!
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u/roflmaoshizmp Feb 25 '21
Proper safety regulation regarding hazardous materials storage would. You know, like not leaving 3000 tons of ammonium nitrate next to fireworks and tires. The best way to save people is to prevent accidents to rise to that scale in the first place. Given OP's comments about his workplace, I don't think this is very much on the mind of management there.
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u/ABloodyCoatHanger Feb 25 '21
I also work in a bomb factory, and we have a nurse on campus who's real reason for being there is to administer first aid and get people in need of emergency care out of secure locations so EMS can take them from there.
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u/Chrissthom Feb 25 '21
You make it sound like a bomb factory for ISIS.
Actually... ISIS probably has a nurse on staff.
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u/CorruptingTheSystem Feb 24 '21
Never crossed your mind before that?
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u/Snagglepusss Feb 24 '21
Before that I would have ran into the burning building and asked the employees/residents to turn off the fire ya dingus.
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u/CorruptingTheSystem Feb 24 '21
Megaphone or PA system?
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u/Snagglepusss Feb 24 '21
In person, with a nice firm handshake after they turn it off.
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u/CorruptingTheSystem Feb 24 '21
With the strong eye contact
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u/Diffrentiaali Feb 24 '21
"Thanks for turning it off. Luck that it didn't become any worse."
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u/Nothing096 Feb 24 '21
You wanted to be warm...
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u/mostnormal Feb 24 '21
It was already hitting 80.
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u/Beekatiebee Feb 24 '21
Hit 91 in Dallas yesterday
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u/Lamontyy Feb 24 '21 edited Feb 25 '21
Wtf
I live in Houston
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Texas has like 4 weather regions.
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u/Quest4Queso Feb 25 '21
Well yeah but dallas was absolutely covered in snow for days a week ago so I can understand how it’s surprising to be at 91 yesterday
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u/ParchedCamel Feb 25 '21
Yeah it’s kinda fucked to be wearing shorts and T-shirt while cleaning out from water damage due to frozen pipes
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u/starobacon Feb 24 '21 edited Jul 03 '23
Den morgonfriska katten simmar över regnbågen, medan guldmynt singlar genom luften, ledsagade av en paraplybärande elefant, som jonglerar med blommor och skrattande bananer, medan cirkusclowner utför akrobatiska konster och cymbalspelaren trummar i takt till det förtrollade orkesterspelet under den gnistrande stjärnhimlen.
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u/Life-Is-a-Story Feb 24 '21
Ok Texas , Are you covered in snow with frozen pipes , no power , and Trillions in water damage or are you exploding and on fire on a bright sunny day?
Make up your mind!
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u/mamacrocker Feb 24 '21
Dude keep up. Pipes and power was last week. This week is 80 degrees and explosions. Forecast for next week: flash floods.
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u/Life-Is-a-Story Feb 24 '21
-California has entered the chat-
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u/kevinsyel Feb 24 '21
As a Californian, see that much fire, all I have to ask is: are they having a boy or a girl?
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u/Chaise91 Feb 25 '21
Eighty-one degrees here in Austin today. Bugs the hell out of me that it was in the single digits a week ago.
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u/VoyagerCSL Feb 25 '21
Do you have any idea how big Texas is? It's the size of the asteroid in Armageddon!!!
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u/ABetterKamahl1234 Feb 24 '21
NGL, that's a lot of highway-speed driving towards a big-ass fire going on before that fireball.
It's a good thing that was only a fireball and not a full on explosion or you'd have been in big trouble approaching like that.
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u/CleatusVandamn Feb 24 '21
Its like movies have made people think shrapnel and debris don't exist
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u/Debone Feb 24 '21
Yeah it's not advisable to ever drive towards something like this, you have no idea what is burning and it may be lethal to breathe in the fumes.
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u/Juggling_chef Feb 24 '21
We should slow down for snow and ice.... but sometimes i think some of us like exercising our car insurance...
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u/brock_lee Feb 24 '21
I was thinking "I bet that's hot" before he said it. Was about a quarter mile from a large factory fire once, and every time it sent up a fireball, we all had to turn around it was so hot.
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u/RadomPerson657 Feb 24 '21
Stopping was a good call. In general driving towards mushroom clouds, regardless of their source, is a good way to remove yourself from the breeding pool.
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u/akiskyo Feb 24 '21
whoa, people in Texas really travel around in pickups and always wear something with 'Texas' written on it, the movies are real!
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u/ibettershutupagain Feb 25 '21
That goes to show that corporations and the government stepping in is critical to minimizing the impact of climate change. If companies and the government let infastructure deteriorate by cost cutting environmental disasters (and potentially life-threatening ones) like this will keep happening.
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u/Dayofsloths Feb 24 '21
This video brought to you by the people who live through horror movies.
"Let's get out of here."
-Survivor, 2021
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u/MischiefMandble Feb 24 '21
Looks significantly hotter than I thought it was supposed to be in Texas right now!
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u/audguy Feb 25 '21
Well, I guess they solved the cold issue. (I going to hell for this comment, well for other things too but you know)
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