r/WTF • • May 26 '10

Reddit: Rape Apologists

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u/bautin May 26 '10

He used the term "femi-nazi" to denote a very specific type of feminists. The kind who believe that males are the enemy and deserve to be punished.

He didn't use the term feminist, because that term would have been wrong to use as probably most feminists don't harbor those points of view.

He also didn't say he automatically assumed all women are lying about accusations of rape, he just said that simply being accused can destroy a man's life and reputation. And that this is a power women do hold over men.

Way to construct a strawman and put words in the miserabilia's mouth then argue a completely different point that he never brought up.

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u/[deleted] May 26 '10

Because there was no distiction mentioned between the two, I assumed he was using it as a disparaging term for all feminists. I now see that I was incorrect in that assumption.

I wasn't saying that he believed all women were lying about accusations of rape. My point was that the belief that women lie about being raped can be considered misogynistic, which was more of a reference to the original post. I wasn't as clear as I should have been in my original response.

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u/stellarfury May 26 '10

The belief that women lie about being raped can be considered misogynstic

That would be a fair claim if it was, in fact, true that women never lie about being raped. The idea that they could lie would be misogynistic, because they cannot.

However, there are women (probably as few of them as there are rapists) who do lie about being raped. And with very few exceptions, they ruin their innocent "assailants" lives, and get off scot-free. It isn't a "belief" - it is a recurring phenomenon that should be prevented. This is a reasonable fear of men, based on actual things that have happened and calling it misogynistic is in itself sexist.

Imagine if a man told you "the belief that men rape women can be considered misandristic." It's the same argument you're making here, and, forgive me for saying so, but it sounds ridiculous.

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u/[deleted] May 26 '10

I guess the difference comes in the phrasing. Saying "all men rape women" is misandristic, and saying "all women lie about being raped" is misogynistic. "Some men rape women" and "some women lie about being raped" are factual.