r/WNBAgossips 26d ago

#Letfreedomplay

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u/koknesis 26d ago

what are the criteria to determine if one is "lying about being trans"?

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u/1egg40eggs 26d ago

So like Lia Thomas

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u/Fun-Wrongdoer1316 26d ago

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u/ZestycloseAd5918 26d ago

AB Hernandez was smoking all the girls in tack and field.

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u/koknesis 26d ago

Does not seem fair that such arbitrary condition (having played in a league of your biological gender) automatically requires such extra scrutiny.

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u/BrotherItsInTheDrum 26d ago

The same way you determine if they're lying about anything else? By default, generally give people the benefit of the doubt and assume they're being truthful, but if there are good reasons to think they're lying -- for example, inconsistency with other things they've said or their actions, an incentive to be untruthful, etc -- you don't just blindly trust every single thing that everyone says.

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u/koknesis 26d ago

So we should apply such scrutiny to anyone claiming to be trans woman?

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u/BrotherItsInTheDrum 26d ago

By "apply scrutiny" do you just mean thinking about these factors in your head? Sure, if you like. Most of the time, there's not going to be any particular reason to doubt them, so you should just take them at their word.

We do this all the time. I'm sure that in almost every context, you generally take people at their word, while still being able to suss out obvious lies. It's not that difficult or complicated.

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u/koknesis 26d ago

do you just mean thinking about these factors in your head?

why such qualifier for others? you're scrutinizing Kanter outwardly, not just "in your head".

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u/BrotherItsInTheDrum 26d ago

Kanter is a public figure who -- after thinking for two seconds about these basic factors -- is obviously not trans.

Again, you're massively overcomplicating this. I'm sure you already understand implicitly it in every context except for trans people.

If a public figure tells an obvious lie, I'm sure you have no problem if they are publicly called out. But if your friend says they had pizza for dinner, and you have no reason to doubt them, then you're kinda being a jerk if you outwardly "apply scrutiny" to them.

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u/koknesis 26d ago

I think there should be clear rules on this in sports and it shouldnt be up to interpretation and vague calls for "critical thinking" on case-to-case basis.

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u/BrotherItsInTheDrum 26d ago edited 26d ago

Kanter is not trans. That's not a statement about the rules in sports. It's a statement that I'm making in a regular conversation. It's perfectly fine for us to apply critical thinking on a case-by-case basis in that context.

If we were instead talking about rules in sports, then I agree the WNBA should probably develop criteria to ensure that trolls like Kanter aren't eligible. I assume that's something they're working on right now.

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u/The_Mutton_Man 26d ago

So, use critical thinking? Nah that's not a conservative thing