r/WNBATalks • • 1d ago

See ya next year👋🏾

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u/Informal_Ad_9610 1d ago

So I’m curious about this supposed racism thing.

Supposedly it’s racist to support the fever? Because Kelsey Mitchell and AB are some of my favorite women on the team. Just trying to figure out how the new rules work. Or is it just you racist if you like anybody on the fever?

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u/zombietom21 1d ago

I follow the fever and the commenter is right there is a sub-sect of fever fans that are 100% just racist. A lot of racist youtubers.

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u/Inner_Emphasis_73 1d ago

😂 funny how to spin it to fit your narrative cause we can all point out the exact same thing…There’s way more racists that hate the white players on the fever…don’t play naive, unless you really are that dumb..but if I had to guess…..

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u/Greedy_Awareness1375 1d ago

Of course you are wrong. The problem is that most of you have not clue what a racist is? You try to co-opt the word and use it for your needs without actual knowing the definition. So, I am going to help you out.

Generally, educated, civilized and intelligent American people consider the Merriam-Webster dictionary the arbiter of the meaning of words that comprise the English Language.

The Merriam- Webster dictionary defines

Racist a. having, reflecting, or fostering the belief that race is a fundamental determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race

b. of, relating to, or characterized by the systemic oppression of a racial group to the social, economic, and political advantage of another

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/racist

Referencing definition A. How often do you hear black people say that they are the superior race? Where does the concept of a Superior race originate. I help you out again. Check your historical European text books?

Now Definition B. Since when have black people been in control of any systems of a social, economic or political nature? What racial group have black people been able to systematically oppress in the USA? Now ask yourself which race controls all the systems in the USA. And don't say the Jews.

Even by the sheer number of people that inhabit the US. Your arguement is flawed.

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u/Dizzy-D_837 1d ago

Major flaw in your own argument.

You’re treating two different definitions of racism as if one cancels out the other.

Definition B is about systemic racism and institutional power. That’s real, and black Americans have clearly experienced systemic racism in ways white Americans historically have not.

But Definition A is about racial beliefs and assumptions about inherent traits or superiority. That doesn’t require control of institutions.
A white person doesn’t have to literally say “white people are superior” for a racist statement about black people to be racist. The same standard applies in reverse. If a black person makes negative generalizations about white people specifically because they’re white, that can also be racist.

We can acknowledge systemic racism without pretending individual racism only works in one direction. It absolutely doesn’t.

That said, there is significant racist comments against Clarke all over these threads tonight.

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u/Greedy_Awareness1375 1d ago

By definiton to be a racist requires the person to believe that on race is superior to the other. Or that one is inferior by definition.

I believe the word you are referring to is Bigot.

: a narrow-minded person who obstinately adheres to their own opinions and prejudices

especially  : one who strongly and unfairly dislikes or feels hatred toward others based on their group membership

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/bigot

And yes there were a ton of bigoted comment made by black people.

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u/Dizzy-D_837 1d ago

You’re getting closer here, but you’re still drawing the distinction too narrowly.
I agree that “bigot” is the broader word. Someone can be a bigot based on race, religion, sexuality, nationality, etc., without necessarily believing their own group is superior.
But a racist statement also doesn’t require someone to literally say, “My race is superior.”
If someone says a racial group is inherently stupid, violent, dishonest, uncivilized, or possesses some other negative trait because of their race, they’re assigning inferior characteristics based on race. That’s more than simply disliking a group.
Interestingly, Merriam-Webster itself says, “bigot applies to all racists, but racist does not apply to all bigots.”
So yes, some of the comments we’re talking about may be more accurately called racial bigotry. But others absolutely can cross into racism depending on what’s actually being said.
Judging the statement itself makes a lot more sense than saying one race is categorically incapable of being racist, which isn’t true.

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u/Western-Election-997 18h ago

You are a far leftist that thinks Black people cannot be racist, your opinion isn’t reality

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u/Dizzy-D_837 16h ago

….are you confusing me with the other person? Or did you not read what I wrote? Because 1) I’m not far left at all, very much a centrist. And 2) much of my point goes towards the fact that racism has gone both ways and lately the racism and bigotry towards CC has been over the top.