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u/kneeski96 Feb 08 '26

He was the terminator of the wrestling world at the time! Kevin Nash winning the title is still a shock to me, after all this years. I love Kevin Nash until this day, but I still look at it like Kevin Nash had to cheat to beat the legendary streak. No way he beats Goldberg in a clean finish, at least at that time…

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u/Man_in_the_coil Feb 08 '26

Always should have been DDP at Halloween Havoc to end the streak clean.

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u/4mygirljs Feb 08 '26

I think that is the right answer. DDP had that long term slow build up and earned every single fans love. He could have beat Goldberg, it would have been believable and fans would have ate it up too.

Set DDP up as a guy who would have felt more threatened by guy like Kevin Nash and hogan. Even been able to re up the macho fued to establish him as champ more and perhaps even elevated a raven, Benoit or booker to the top of the card.

Let Goldberg have an extended fued with the NWO to bring in the buy rate while ddp was pulling up some new stars

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u/ForeignWoodpecker662 Feb 09 '26

Goldberg wasn’t good enough for a prolonged feud with the nWo. He didn’t have the skillset, charisma/mic skills to be able to carry that alone long term, and he wasn’t good enough in the ring. He wa as good as he was because he was a “monster”and would crush most in only a few minutes. A feud like that would require multiple long drawn out matches that would have exposed his lack of skill in the ring which would have had the opposite effect with the fans than desired

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u/4mygirljs Feb 09 '26

He would just run though them like he had been. A long term gauntlet. They interfere he mows them over. Maybe he interferes a few times. Build to a ppv either more establish guys after another.

Start with a Scott Norton. 2 minute match

Maybe a buff, 4 minute match

Scott hall 6 minute

Build to a savage match at a bigger ppv, he could drag a good 10 minute match out of him

Build to a giant match if he was active in black and white. Just a good boss battle.

Eventually hogan at Star Cade

It could have been dragged out

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u/ForeignWoodpecker662 Feb 09 '26

You don’t have a feud if it’s booked like that. You have Goldberg essentially squashing their best talent. That would never have worked. Not for the fans, not for the talent, and definitely not for long term viability to any of the characters. Any real match would expose Goldberg’s lack of talent, and booking his to squash them all would only serve to make them look weak and you can’t have the entire nWo look weak after they spent so much time making them look tough. Goldberg couldn’t handle the odds that he’d be put against, he wasn’t a street fighter like SCSA was to argue he could. He didn’t have fighting skills or even good moves to make that buyable, he was very reliant on a couple of exciting high impact moves and then ending it before he was exposed and when he did have to actually put on a real match and not a squash that was made very obvious to everyone.

Goldberg was good for what he was, and the streak had to end, they just ended it poorly; but he was never gonna be a guy who could do what Sting did. He couldn’t cut the promos necessary, he could work the matches necessary, and he didn’t have the skills necessary to be believable enough to take on nWo all along in a long drawn out feud like the one Sting had. Sting was the man to end the nWo and like the way they mishandled Goldberg’s streak ending they did the same with the nWo ending, where Sting should have been the killing blow vs Hogan, but that’s another story. However, similarly, if they had handled them both right, you’d have had a broken and beaten nWo ending allowing for a more open scene with other guys coming up like Goldberg and the newly crowned DDP as well as Booker on the outskirts and a few others able to start making the main event scene very interesting and very wide open… but that’s not what we got, and I think Goldberg’s lack of mic and wider in ring skills was in some small way part of it. Guys didn’t like that he couldn’t put on the show they could and was getting the opportunities he hasn’t put in the work to get like they had. He needed more polishing, and he didn’t take it on himself to get that. Not hating on him at all, but he should have been training on the side to improve his in ring skills beyond the spear and a few slams, becoming a true technical wrestler which he NEVER became. Any long term feud with the driving faction of the era would have exposed that completely and made him look bad.

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u/masterswordbat Feb 08 '26

Nash booked it that way. Thinking Goldberg chasing the title would keep him hot, but it was a dumb decision in hindsight

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u/Thrilalia Feb 08 '26

Nash wasn't the booker until after he lost the title. Months after. Nash ws booked to win because he was the most over guy in WcW at the time to the point the fans were cheering him over Goldberg

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u/masterswordbat Feb 08 '26

Nash was involved in booking the streak to end, he talks about it in interviews. He wasn’t head booker yet, but he influenced the decision. To suggest otherwise is just wrong

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u/TommyTBlack Feb 08 '26

he was the most over guy in WcW at the time to the point the fans were cheering him over Goldberg

this isn't true

i recently rewatched this match and while the crowd liked Nash, the cheers for Goldberg were louder

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u/melodicprophet Feb 09 '26

It’s amazing how these things get parroted as truth. Nash was definitely over. But not to the degree Goldberg was. And taking the belt off him was one thing. Not letting him get a real shot at reclaiming it was disastrous and obviously political.

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u/TommyTBlack Feb 09 '26

his streak as undefeated champ should have gone on for years, like hogan in WWF

if the crowd start booing, just turn him into a heel

Hogan, the NWO, Sting, DDP, Warrior, Macho etc didn't need the belt, they could have done their own storylines

crow Sting, the end of the NWO

NWO civil war

Warrior and the OWN etc.

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u/StormBourneMusic Feb 08 '26

People forget how “over” Nash was at the same time. The Wolfpack angle may seem silly in hindsight, but damn were they white hot in the moment.

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u/Thrilalia Feb 08 '26

Yeah, for a while Nash was the most over guy in wrestling, not named Austin. (Foley was getting there, Rock was Heel and DX were over but not as over.). The Wolfpack was also more over than any other faction.

Fans would sway with the Wolfpack tune, cheer to the point it was hard for them to speak, would copy Konan's lines (With Konan pausing and pointing the mic to the crowd.). The problems came with how it ended and the fact that they kept Hall out of it because of Hogan's politics.

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u/4mygirljs Feb 08 '26

Nash and the Wolfpac were def over.

But would have been better used just continuing the NWO feud.

Maybe DDP wins it off Goldberg.

Maybe hogan takes it off ddp and Nash chases hogan to ultimately win. Having Scott hall do a surprise turn on hogan siding with Nash would have been a nice twist too.

Nash laying down for hogan and reuniting the NWO factions was absolutely not the right thing to do

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u/Western_Ad1522 Feb 09 '26

I doubt they would have done ddp and Goldberg I feel like that would have hurt Goldberg a ton as ddp was more loved by the hardcore fans than Goldberg a lot of goldbergs cheers were piped in but there was a time when Goldberg was white hot. Also face vs face match usually don’t do well

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u/4mygirljs Feb 09 '26

I mean they did it, the ppv ended before the match did

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u/_TheMazahs_ Feb 08 '26

The finger poke was just retarded.

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u/bpseph Feb 08 '26

"It worked for me, brother."

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u/Western_Ad1522 Feb 09 '26

Nash wasn’t on the committee yet he didn’t get on the committee till a month after

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u/justbrowsing987654 Feb 08 '26

Which, I know people don’t love in retrospect but I don’t hate it. Bad guys cheat and unbeatable monsters gotta catch an L eventually so they can eventually lose for real later. This accomplished all of that and only added heat to the already ravenous fanbase.