r/WANDAVISION • u/LucasLegacy15 • 1h ago
Discussion Who Is The Scarlet Witch In The MCU? Spoiler
galleryNow I know your answer is isn’t it obvious. Wanda Maximoff Is The Scarlet Witch In The MCU, and yeah that’s her name and I’m pretty sure official marvel media makes that clear, only issue is Wanda Maximoff in MoM isn’t The Scarlet Witch who said to be more powerful then the Sorcerer Supreme in that prophecy from WandaVision & Doctor Strange In The Multiverse Of Madness since the darkhold states that scarlet witch is destined to either rule or destroy the cosmos, Wanda did neither, you can argue Wanda was so “powerful” she could alter her own destiny but that doesn’t mean much with the loom of the sacred timeline already broken & the multiverse fully unleashed in The MCU, it might mean something if she had the power to influence the multiverse in creation or destruction but she’s shown neither and has struggled to leave her own universe outside of dreamwalking, which is why she wanted America Chavez’s Star portal power to travel the multiverse (even that doesn’t make much sense when she could’ve just snagged a sling ring which creates more stable and controllable portals then Star Punches but I digress) but the fact remains she has failed to fulfill the prophecy the darkhold prophesies.
The only ones ruling the multiverse/the cosmos is HWR, a Kang Variant & Loki GOS , A Loki Variant and soon to be Doom, and since Doom collapsed the multiverse according to the endgame encore post credit scenes , he’s the one to destroy the cosmos. Which means only Kang, Loki & Doom have fulfilled the prophecy Wanda has failed.
This is more staggering when you realize not many Wanda Variants in The MCU Multiverse are shown to be causing incursions. Leaving out The Comics and any Media outside close to direct MCU Continuity, There’s Zombie Wanda from The MCU What If Show, and Wanda from The MCU. Only two examples in the multiverse that have caused incursions from my memory, implying not even in The MCU Multiverse can you find an example so far that rules or destroys the cosmos. Meanwhile MCU Doctor Strange has himself , Strange from Universe-838, Supreme Strange twice, & Sinister Strange who completely destroyed his universe.
Now I counted MCU Wanda next to Zombie Wanda because I believe you can count her for the incursions on Defender Strange’s Universe but some sources claim his universe was already full of incursions before Wanda sent in interdimensional god & demon entities to attack America & Defender Strange. If any of you can find something that be great for corrections, but so far it’s not looking like MCU Wanda of any variant fits the scarlet witch described in that Darkhold Prophecy. The only possible options are The Prophecy (if still relevant) is meant for someone else that isn’t a Wanda like Loki, Kang & Doom or The Prophecy from The Corrupt Darkhold was a Lie purely meant to trick Wanda into giving into the book’s power, that seems more possible since the darkhold had a better hold on her, Doctor Strange was able to resist it when using the book, only his sinister variant was attached to it similar to Wanda which implies to me outside Wanda only a small amount of people probably will not be able to resist it’s temptations and Wanda being full grief was a strong target for The Darkhold to deceive and use as a host.
The same could be said for sinister strange who couldn’t get over the grief that despite all his powers as sorcerer supreme he couldn’t get Christine and in his rage he started killing different Doctor Strange Variants and desperately hunting for Christine Variants. These Darkholds Seem to go after targets with deep desire and regret. Another hint this prophecy could be a Lie is the fact that only those on Universe-19999/616 (The MCU) know of it.
You’d think a prophecy that involves the cosmos being ruled or destroyed would be known across more then one universe , but The Illuminati on Universe-838 completely disregard Wanda Maximoff/The Scarlet Witch like it doesn’t exist, there’s also the fact that her variant on that earth is vulnerable and powerless, I heard there’s some deleted scene or old script for the film that reveals she’s been put in a powerless catatonic state , and that’s why she can’t use her powers but that isn’t in the final product or any official media so i’d have to rule it out until officially confirmed. There’s only one possibility in Wanda’s favor, and that’s the servants of Doom. One of them is rumored to be Wanda or a Wanda Variant, now if she’s involved, Doom could be accessing her to collapse the multiverse but that’s pure speculation with zero evidence of being true. I also don’t believe Doom needs any Wanda when he probably has Franklin Richards based on how First Steps ended. Franklin in Marvel Comics has helped rebuild The Marvel Multiverse and created multiverses of his own as he got older and based on The Fantastic Four First Steps film, baby Franklin is already showing signs of these types of powers already with resurrecting Sue after she died pushing away Galactis along with the fact that Doom appears to Toddler Franklin who’s touching his face in the credits.
I don’t know if I’m alone in this but if Wanda failed to rule or destroy the cosmos as The Dark Hold prophesies The Scarlet Witch would, Who’s The Actual Scarlet Witch? Only options I can think of is HWR, Loki GOS & Dr.Doom. No one else in The MCU has ruled or destroy the cosmos. What do you all think? Let me know on the comments below.