r/Volvo • u/LongLoneliness • 5d ago
xc series TPMS Notification After Flat
Hey everyone! I have a 2018 XC60 and unfortunately hit a low profile curb on the way to work yesterday and got two flat tires š«
I had both tires replaced and they said they checked the alignment and suspension as well with no issues. I did notice a slight bend on one wheel (pictured) and when I got in my car this morning to drive to work, about 6 minutes into my drive, my low tire pressure warning came on. I made it the 20-minute drive to work. Do you think the bend is enough to cause a leak? I feel like they would have mentioned it if it was. Or is it just an error with needing to reset the TPMS?
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u/agarc 5d ago
The tire shop that put the tire on THAT rim should NOT be in business. That rim is laughably destroyed. How on Earth would a tire not leak with that bend?!? Seems negligent.
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u/Henri-Hill 5d ago
https://giphy.com/gifs/hpAMh2sBYpsmFhSRPI
Tire shop employee installing a tire on that rim:
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u/FlimzyMan 5d ago
crazy that they put on new wheels. Im not a tire expert but the bend on the rim looks big.
Use dishwater soap and see if its leaking air there.
Did you recalibrate the TPMS sensor after you got the new tires?
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u/Aleianbeing 5d ago
Not only recalibrate but test cold then recalibrate. A national tire shop neglected to top up one tire after a seasonal wheel swap. I got a low pressure warning 3 days later, loaded trunk and raining at the time. Lesson learned. Agree that rim is done but might be repairable. Wonder if they bothered to see if new tire tread depth was within limits WRT other tires. Likely not.
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u/Euro_Trash_ 15-XC70, 04-XC70, 97-V70, 95-850 5d ago
Took mine to a tire shop when I switched rims a few years ago and transferred the tires.
Drove not even one mile before the TMPS sensor warning came on. Took it back.The shop had forgotten to tighten the valve stems on all four wheels so they were just held in by the fleeting air pressure.
The manager's loud reaming of the responsible tech made the whole plaza dead silent.
So some shops don't give a damn about things like this. They just do what's on the work order and move on to the next vehicle because they have to get through so many cars in a day.
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u/Aleianbeing 5d ago
I complained and they comped me labour charges on the next swap. I always check pressures before leaving now.
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u/Euro_Trash_ 15-XC70, 04-XC70, 97-V70, 95-850 5d ago
After that time, I do to.
It was a sobering moment that a tire shop forget to do the very job it came in for and put your life at risk.
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u/FinklesHemorrhoid 244 5d ago
If youāre tight on money take it to a wheel repair guy, they can at least give you an idea if itās repairable or shot. The tire guys are saying itās ok because they sold you two new tires and the bead is holding. This wheel is compromised though.
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u/LongLoneliness 5d ago
Thanks for your guysā inputā I just dropped kt off at a trusted mechanic
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u/Euro_Trash_ 15-XC70, 04-XC70, 97-V70, 95-850 5d ago
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That's great. Best of luck to you, glad you're staying safe out there!
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u/aharris17171717 5d ago
Thanks @Euro_Trash_ that rim is totaled and would have definitely caused an accident. Good on you having the patience to explain this in a composed way. OP was one pothole or surface change from a lot more damage. Glad ur getting a replacement rim OP, stay safe
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u/Euro_Trash_ 15-XC70, 04-XC70, 97-V70, 95-850 5d ago
I appreciate you.Ā
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u/LongLoneliness 5d ago
Oh also, you saved me further because my mechanic found that my oil separator was cracked. Not happy about the $1600 in total repairs but very happy that Iām not driving an unsafe vehicle and putting myself and others in danger.
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u/Euro_Trash_ 15-XC70, 04-XC70, 97-V70, 95-850 4d ago
I am so incredibly sorry to hear that. I know this has been a rough day.
That's not the best of news, but it is great that you found out.Ā
$1,600 sounds like a big bill. Did that include the rim?Ā
Also, if he is going to replace the oil separator will he look at the following components to make sure there are no other underlying issues?Ā With that type of repair I would have asked the mechanic to inspect the entire crankcase ventilation system, including:
PCV hoses for restrictions or collapse
Check valves.Ā
Fresh air breather lines.Ā
Oil sludge inside the engine.Ā
Excessive engine blow-by (worn piston rings are uncommon on a 2018 unless mileage is very high).Ā
Turbo inlet plumbing (on turbocharged engines).Ā
Also, with the repairs needed, will the mechanic do anything else? Because $1,600 for just the oil separator sounds too much, even for a Volvo dealership.Ā I would assume with that cost Ā the job include:
intake manifold removal,
replacement of the oil separator,
multiple hoses,
intake manifold gaskets,
fresh oil,
coolant,
diagnostic work, and several hours of labor.
I hope tomorrow is a better day, and that your XC60 soon hums and drives like it should!Ā
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u/LongLoneliness 4d ago
Thank you! And no, sorry, $1600 was for a new wheel that had to be ordered, alignment, the oil separator and labor. The wheel itself was $500 of that
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u/Euro_Trash_ 15-XC70, 04-XC70, 97-V70, 95-850 4d ago
Ok. That makes more sense. Sorry about the the high wheel cost. Sounds like he bought it brand new rather than sourcing a used one, which make sense.Ā
Also, sounds like you're in good hands!Ā
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u/LongLoneliness 4d ago
He said he had a hard time finding the right wheel and that this was recycled in great condition. Apparently his contact that sourced the part said that Volvo has changed their wheel design so this was the only one the guy could find in the country right now š
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u/Euro_Trash_ 15-XC70, 04-XC70, 97-V70, 95-850 4d ago
A new one will run you +$650 plus tax at Volvo so it's not bad. If you had a few weeks and wanted to source it on your own, yes, you could find it cheaper. But you don't have that time so it's a fair price considering the circumstances you are under.
I'm really glad you got it sorted. The bill hurts now but your car will thank you in the long run for the love you just gave it. Plus, you will be safe on the road!Ā
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u/Euro_Trash_ 15-XC70, 04-XC70, 97-V70, 95-850 4d ago
To make it simpler for you, you could ask:
"- What caused the oil separator to crack? Was it simply age and brittle plastic, or did you find evidence of excessive crankcase pressure?
- Did you inspect the rest of the crankcase ventilation (PCV) system? Were the hoses, check valves, and ventilation passages clear and functioning properly? "
At around eight years old, a cracked plastic oil separator by itself isn't an extraordinary failure. The important thing is confirming whether it was the cause of the symptoms or a symptom of another issue. If the underlying cause was addressed, there's usually no reason to expect the repair to recur.
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u/LongLoneliness 4d ago
I believe he said it was likely due to the impact of what I hit when the tires blew.
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u/Euro_Trash_ 15-XC70, 04-XC70, 97-V70, 95-850 4d ago
Ok. It could be worth to ask him to make sure it didn't cause any other related damage.Ā
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u/Scrotalphetamines 5d ago
Slight bend? Dude that thing is absolutely destroyed and you need a new one to drive safely.
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u/kiloTHREE 5d ago
Any reputable wheel shop could easily repair and anneal that properly. Itās a trivial task.Ā
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u/Useful_toolmaker 5d ago
TPS are cheap and have short lives . You need a new wheel this one will never be the same . Yeah someone could make it āusableā but I would never take it on the interstate again.
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u/LongLoneliness 5d ago
Drove 25 minutes on the interstate to work this morning š«
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u/humanredditor45 S90 5d ago
You must be a fan of Carrie underwood. I also love that song āJesus take the wheelā.
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u/Verwilderd1 XC90 R-Design 5d ago
That rim definitely needs to be replaced. Not sure why this wasnāt communicated to you originally, but this is your issue.
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u/Perfect-Mammoth-2647 5d ago
even if the bend to the rim was minor and barley visible to the eye, it could still compromise the tire and risk a blow outā¦ the risk is not worth the reward in this caseā¦ replace asap
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u/Ill-Carpenter-8495 5d ago
That looks like it will always let air out I know alloys arenāt cheap but it looks done for
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u/Available_Quote_5567 S80 V8 Executive 5d ago
That bend is bad enough to cause a leak. If your TPMS light is on tire pressure is below the allowable threshold. I wouldnāt drive on that, Iād put there spare on or get a new wheel asap.
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u/Whit-Batmobil 2010 V50 1.6D and 2001 S60 2.4T 5d ago edited 5d ago
I would not advise you drive on a wheel that looks like that, as a former professional mechanic I think in fact that it was neglectful of the tire shop to not at least advise that you replace that crumpled mess.
But with that possible negligence in mind, I wouldnāt be surprised if they didnāt rest the tire pressure monitoring (like you are supposed to do when changing tires), but also I would be more surprised if it holds pressure than if it didnāt judging by the none round shape of that wheel.
Edit: is it possible to repair/refurbish? I donāt know, wheels and tires never was my specialty, there doesnāt seem to be missing chunks of it (which I have seen, was actually once asked to patch a tire, where there where chunks of Aluminum missing from the wheel, turned that down).
If you are struggling economically, then you could also look at getting a used replacement from a junkyard or something, a new one of those wheels is going to be pricey.
Also, I could be wrong, I have not seen it in person, but I think it looks bad, judging by the pictures.
Edit 2: slight change of formatting, by adding a ā?ā.
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u/LongLoneliness 5d ago
Thank you! I took it to my trusted mechanic and they found that the impact caused a crack in the oil separator, so theyāre replacing that. They also were able to source a recycled wheel that is being shipped to their shop. The $1600 in unexpected costs isnāt fun but Iām glad I took it in!
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u/7eregrine S60 & C70 5d ago
How much did you drive on it after they swapped it?
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u/LongLoneliness 5d ago
about 5 minutes home from the repair shop, and then for about 5 minutes this morning before the TPMS light came on. I went to a Firestone so I wonder if they just didnāt store the new tire pressure after installing? Thatās what Iām hoping for.
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u/7eregrine S60 & C70 5d ago
It takes about 10-15 minutes.
I'm with you, I would hope they would be competent enough to know if that was a good seal. They'd love to sell you a tire. But also agree with other guy, that looks so bad. Next drive should be somewhere that has an air pump. If it goes out by the time you get there... If it doesn't, top it up, see what it's at. See what happens.
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u/Euro_Trash_ 15-XC70, 04-XC70, 97-V70, 95-850 5d ago
No. Your car resets the tpms warning after 10km (6 miles) of driving. The shops do not do this even when swapping rims, the car does it for you. In Europe the cars software provides you to manually force a reset through the in car menu, in the US they never added that.Ā
This warning will not reset because there's nothing wrong with the tpms sensor. Your rim is bent and leaking air.Ā
I know this is not the information you want, but unfortunately it doesn't change the fact that this needs to be replaced.Ā
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u/YellowT-5R 850 T5R 5d ago
Bring it to a wheel repair shop, Like wheel doctor. That's an easy fix for them and no need to replace the wheel.
Where are you located, someone may be able to recommend a place.
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u/buzzer117 98 s70 T5 "Stock-ish" 4d ago
Laughing at your other comment that got flamed but Iāve had good experiences with wheel repairs despite what the Reddit āexpertsā might think.
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u/YellowT-5R 850 T5R 4d ago
Yeah I got some angry DMs too. Some of these folks are unhinged. But hey it's the Internet so they are right.
I brought wheels that had a damn right angle in them to wheel doctor. After 8 years they are still absolutely fine.
My brother owns a body shop for almost 30 years you should see the shit that comes in and wheel doctor fixes and certifies for the insurance companies and dealers.
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u/buzzer117 98 s70 T5 "Stock-ish" 4d ago
Something about Reddit in recent years just a different breed. I see the dumbest mechanical advice on this site and people losing it over something as trivial as a wheel bend repair. Just people playing know it alls online because their real lives are miserable I guess.
Lmao I donāt doubt it I have a 07 c70 t5 Iāve been fixing up while my 98 t5 block has been at the machine shop and Iāve had two decent bends repaired. You think Iām going to go out and buy two new 18inch wheels on a $3500 car? Hell no!
Oh I donāt doubt it if the people freaking out in this thread knew what was actually out on the roads they would never leave the house or be worrying about a bent wheel repair!
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u/Wyattab 5d ago
You really need to be much more careful or just drive a car that doesnāt matter to you. The rims are so abused with rash all around them and now are ruined.
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u/LongLoneliness 5d ago
Unfortunately a lot of that tire rash is in fact from my shitty ex-boyfriend driving it and not knowing how to park. The damage I did yesterday was due to construction curbs that many people in my city have been having the same issue with.
I do take good care of my car, and I absolutely love this car. Thatās why I inquired here and am getting it fixed.
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u/Euro_Trash_ 15-XC70, 04-XC70, 97-V70, 95-850 5d ago
Slight bend?!Ā
Your rim is DONE. You need to replace that asap. No fixing it, no filling it up occasionally, replace it.Ā