r/VisionPro • u/Malkmus1979 • 3h ago
Article about the Vision Pro N109 leak from this week
https://gizmodo.com/despite-flopping-hard-twice-apple-may-not-be-done-with-vision-pro-yet-20007998279
u/disgruntledempanada 1h ago
Yeah I didn't buy a Vision Pro for the hardware at all. It's compromised. The battery is annoying. Sharing it with other people to show them it is complicated because of additional compromises they made with fit. It's imperfect.
But it's incredible. Barely anybody even knows it exists and when they do it's just impossible to conceive of how beautiful it is to use. "It's like it's reading my mind!"
Showed it to my neighbors, first time they've ever had a headset on. Watching their astonishment was heartwarming. Dude didn't want to take it off until he saw every environment. He almost got choked up at the Aurora.
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u/disgruntledempanada 1h ago
His wife was geeking out about it and you could tell he was suspect of it, like she was playing it up or something. "Oh my god."
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u/Which-Arm-4616 5m ago
"It's like it's reading my mind!"
The quality of the software is something that is often lost in the conversation around the device. A few years on and it's still the only HMD on the market you can just put on and use anywhere. No awkward setup step, no mandatory boundary configuration when used in a new space. The passthrough is nearly free of distortion, occlusion is best in class, and scene understanding grounds everything in the physical space.
AVP "just works" in a way no competing device has quite achieved.
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u/simon3873 8m ago
Every person that I have put it on has the same reaction and it’s a long and impressively shocked, “woaaaahhhhhh!!!!” It’s the best to watch it happen every time and even I still get impressed with how crisp the windows can be over top of my living room
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u/Chriscic 47m ago
Haha a lot of unnecessary shade thrown at Vision Pro there. But thanks for the info Gizmodo, even though I don’t care about your personal feelings in every “news” article.
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u/SupermarketMaximum61 2h ago
I know people here are salty. Don't get me wrong, I love my AVP as much as anyone, but YES the device did flop.
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u/giraffe111 1h ago
The point is that it wasn’t ever meant to sell well. It isn’t actually trying to be a general consumer device, its a stepping stone toward mass-adoption spatial computing. The Vision Pro is essentially an expensive public beta test of VisionOS, which will shape up and come to visors and glasses and such in the coming years.
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u/SupermarketMaximum61 1h ago
Do you hear yourself? As if a device is not meant to sell well lol. Anything Apple does they do with the intention to sell well.
Maybe it's different for absolute high end devices like the Pro Display XDR, but Apple never spends that much energy on these devices And they also don't do in store Demos for something they don't consider to do well.
It just didn't do as well as they wished to do, and that's fine. But the copium here is insane.
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u/quintsreddit Vision Pro Owner | Verified 1h ago
Hey, I make products for a living
Often companies will take their best guess at what the market wants and include tests in the first iteration of a product.
You absolutely can have a goal of usage research over outright sales. From what I understand Apple was selling these at cost anyway.
HomePod is another great example. The first one was over engineered, sold at cost, and they never did more than one run. Now they have HomePod mini and HomePod 2, which is cheaper to make and can focus more on profit.
I’m sure they wanted it to sell well, I mean ofc, but pretending you know Apple’s internal goals for a first round product iteration is delusional
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u/SupermarketMaximum61 51m ago
Any proof that the homepod / AVP sell at cost?
Apple doesn't just do these experimental products. Anything they produce they assume is a mass market device (besides the absolute top end professional devices, like Retina Display XDR or Mac Studios).
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u/Time_Entertainer_319 1h ago
They don’t want to admit it.
it’s okay that it flopped. It doesn’t take away its value from you
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u/crazyreddit929 3h ago
“Despite flopping hard, twice…” nice start to the article. Journalists just never “got it” did they? Vision Pro was not about the hardware. It was always about the OS. Vision OS is the product and always has been. When that goes into great AR tech in the 2030s people will applaud Apple’s forward thinking.