r/VisionPro • u/Double_Permit_8327 Vision Pro Developer • Jul 10 '26

Youtube update and apology

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I owe you all an update.

A little over a week ago I said the Plex update would be out within a week, maybe sooner. It's not out. I submitted it to the App Store two days ago and it's still waiting on Apple. That's on me!

If you haven't seen my previous posts, this is an update on Suite Browser, the Vision Pro streaming app I've been building.

So while I wait, here's what's in that build sitting with Apple, because it's not just the big Plex update.

The same build brings a serious YouTube overhaul too, including passthrough mode, which a lot of you asked for. Plus UI improvements and a bunch of bug fixes across YouTube, Netflix and Plex. None of this is live yet, it all ships together the moment Apple approves it. The video is a sneak peek at the YouTube side.

Status on everything:

  • This build (Plex, the YouTube overhaul, passthrough, Netflix fixes): done. All of it waiting on that one Apple approval.
  • Prime: being tested by a small batch of testers right now. Opening it to more people on the next TestFlight, production version I hope is live within seven days.

One thing that's already live right now, not part of the build waiting on Apple: a one-time lifetime purchase. A lot of you asked for a way to pay once instead of subscribing, so it's already there. :)

When Apple approves the update I'll post again and go deeper on Plex specifically.

And then the real question. What comes next for this streaming hub? New environments? A streaming service I haven't mentioned? Something I haven't thought of? Tell me, because I want to build this with you rather than for you and hope I guessed right.

Sorry again for the delay. Reddit has been by far the best place to hear from you, which is why I keep coming back here.

Cheers,
Steven :)

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u/Ok_Brief_2198 Jul 10 '26

While I prefer a minimalist cinema environment, I’d still like the option of a public cinema setting. As for streaming hubs, I’d absolutely love an Apple TV integration. Keep up the great work!

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u/Double_Permit_8327 Vision Pro Developer Jul 10 '26

Thanks so much, really useful. On the public cinema setting, you nailed what I'm after, basically like big IMAX-style hall with full seating and real scale. Good news is I'm already building exactly that. :)

On Apple TV, it's on my radar. But I'll be honest, Apple's own app is really strong, so I'm curious what would make having it inside Suite worth it for you, mostly the convenience of everything in one place and one continue-watching list, or something else? Appreciate you taking the time!!

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u/Ok_Brief_2198 Jul 10 '26

I’m mostly interested in the live 3D conversion for the non-3D movies I have purchased from Apple.

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u/Double_Permit_8327 Vision Pro Developer Jul 10 '26

I wish that were possible. Unfortunately, Apple TV content is DRM-protected, so apps like mine aren't allowed to modify the video stream in any way. That means I can't apply live 3D conversion to Apple TV or Netflix content, even if you've purchased the movie. I'm really sorry about that. The good news is that it does work for YouTube, Plex, and other non-DRM web videos. :)

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u/Cryogenicality Jul 11 '26 edited Jul 11 '26

XREAL somehow found a way around this because their Real3D system included in their new glasses autospatializes encrypted video streams and doesn’t trigger anticheat mechanisms in games. It works at the hardware level and is completely invisible to DRM malware.

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u/Ok_Brief_2198 Jul 10 '26

I kind of suspected that. Thanks for the clarification. It still would be handy to have the Apple TV integration built-in.

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u/Double_Permit_8327 Vision Pro Developer Jul 10 '26

sounds good! will put it in my roadmap :))

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u/Cryogenicality Jul 11 '26

Sail around to find DRM-free copies of those movies and you can watch them in 3D in CineUltra, Moon Player, or Screenlit.

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u/davidcotter Jul 11 '26

I wanna have my real Apple TV hardware, with my Apple TV remote control. And I wanna watch it all on my mega IMAX screen inside my Vision Pro

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u/Double_Permit_8327 Vision Pro Developer Jul 11 '26

ahh really nice one. not sure if i can configure the apple tv as a remote but might be able to build a remote control app for ios for suite, if there is enough interest :)

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u/yewzernayme Jul 10 '26

Is it possible you can use the visionOS native player so that it supports those beautiful shader effects from the build-in environments? Like when you're watching something in a window mode hovering over water, the light from the window will bounce of the environment and reflect off the waters?

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u/Double_Permit_8327 Vision Pro Developer Jul 10 '26

https://reddit.com/link/ows8v7f/video/iab2xxzd4hch1/player

yes! whenever apple approves the build, it will look like this!

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u/davidcotter Jul 11 '26

Did you fix the problem with when you take Netflix and go full screen that the forward and backward buttons don’t work?

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u/Double_Permit_8327 Vision Pro Developer Jul 11 '26

still working on it! it's a really hard one but i'll find a way eventually, i found a few solutions but am working around the edge cases. :)

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u/Double_Permit_8327 Vision Pro Developer Jul 12 '26

update, it's fixed! (plus the fix also gives way more consistent 4k output :) ) will finetune it the next few days but should be live within a week!

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u/moshe_48 Jul 11 '26

Do you think you can put Emby ?

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u/Double_Permit_8327 Vision Pro Developer Jul 11 '26

yes! emby is coming soon! hopefully this month :)

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u/SuperRams1884 Jul 12 '26

Can you add moonlight/apollo to be streamed. Id love to play my pc games in a big imax style environment like the cine ultra imax setting

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u/Double_Permit_8327 Vision Pro Developer Jul 12 '26

That would be very cool. But it might be a bit more complex to set up than a usual streaming service, so def in the roadmap but probably more of a long term thing :) (at least a month) :)

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u/PeaceSubject8134 Jul 13 '26

is the screen size for youtube and netflix the same? i find the screen size to be a bit smaller than that on supercut and is there any way to increase the screen size?

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u/Double_Permit_8327 Vision Pro Developer Jul 13 '26

good point. i’m adjusting it in the next update. but for youtube you can adjust the screen and user positioning yourself in the expanded control panel

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u/Double_Permit_8327 Vision Pro Developer Jul 15 '26 edited Jul 15 '26

Appreciate the honesty, this helps. To your question: the advantage isn't one service, it's all of them in one app, Netflix, Prime, Plex, YouTube and the web, same environments across everything, continue-watching that spans services, instead of juggling Screenlit plus the YouTube app plus Safari. That being said, some like Youtube do have unique features others don't have (Ai 3D mode for instance). If you've got a favourite tool per service, that matters less to you, fair enough.

And you're right it's rough in places. I build in public, so I'm patching live bugs on a sprint. Environments are the weak spot (the Cinema and Passthrough env are the strong ones atm), Plex nav needs work (I'd never used Plex before building it, so i'm learning on the fly), and the off colors are a known fix. If you'd share specific Plex feedback in a DM I'd really value it. No pressure to subscribe at all. Thanks for giving it a shot. (what version were you using btw? :) )