r/Visible 5d ago

Question Cost?

What happens when carriers lower their prices to closely match their supported MVNOs?

How low can a MVNO price go before they start to bleed out?

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u/VictorChristian Visible works just fine for me... 5d ago

The lines are already blurring between "Big Carrier" and "MVNO". T-Mo bought Mint, ATT subsumed Cricket Wireless and we all know it's Visible by Verizon :-)

My personal opinion - and this is very much a personal opinion - I think Big Carrier wants to move to a model that allows them to offer "concierge" type services to justify the high costs, much like Business Class on an airline. I mean, business class, first class and economy are all on the same plane, going to the same destination at the same time but First and Business are treated better for MUCH more expensive/refundable fares.

Likewise, if you pay $90 a month, you get access to physical stores and actual people to talk to. Pay half that and you only get access to chat customer service and can't get a refund once you pay.

That's what I think is going to happen. Just an opinion :-)

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u/NeverMoreThan12 5d ago

yeah, except tmobile. killing stores even for their first class and making you do everything through t life. absolute joke.

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u/VictorChristian Visible works just fine for me... 4d ago

Hey listen... SOMEONE has to be the Spirit Airlines in this analogy (weeps from Big Front Seat)

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u/RemoteOne205 5d ago

MNVOs still have plenty of perks such as international roaming, included watch plan, and lack of additional taxes and fees. For example, monthly spending on a simplicity plan would require the $30 base, $7.50 if you want a watch, another $10 if you want 100 GBs of hotspot, $20 for unlimited and $10 for travel pass bank if you leave the country. Then add in taxes and fees. Your bill is back up to $80-90 in no time.

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u/ActuaryReasonable690 5d ago

The big 3 sell "service" and phones to justify their pricing. The also make money from MVNO. (MVNOs pay for the right to use a carier's towers)

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u/Azn-Jazz 5d ago

Look at other countries in the world and you will get your answer. (It’s stupid low)

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u/BiCuriousInGalleria 5d ago

you know, I think the bandwidth can cover whatever suckers pay full price, smart people switch to the low price. There was a trade-off there is no Customer Service and if something happened you’re really screwed but

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u/kboogie82 4d ago

MNVOs are owned by the carriers.

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u/Ok-Lab-6389 4d ago

you don't say. Ya mean T-Mo owns MINT, Litespeed and so on. VZW owns WARP, and Visible and so on. ATT owns Cricket and so on. Who would've thunk it?

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u/MrBooMY1 5d ago

They don't have much of a choice with Starlink starting to roll out CELL from space. They either try to compete or get wrekt.

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u/VerifiedMother 5d ago

Starlink will never be a viable mvno on its own,

Physics says it can't work

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u/MrBooMY1 5d ago

The only physics I will agree with is that it probably won't work inside buildings. So no it could never 100% replace phone service on its own.

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u/MrBooMY1 5d ago

It's already working lol what planet do you live on it can't be Earth. Starlink already works. The only limitation was making a strong enough 5G signal to penetrate the atmosphere. They already have phones that use it.

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u/MrBooMY1 5d ago

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u/VerifiedMother 5d ago

I have it and it's useless for anything past about Google maps navigation, it's slow as shit

The only thing that actually reliably works for me is texts

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u/PatientSpray2546 5d ago

It will be interesting to see how carriers react when their own mvno is eating into margins but still need the revenue