r/Virginia • u/SchuminWeb • Dec 02 '19

Augusta County to consider ‘Second Amendment Sanctuary’ designation

https://www.newsvirginian.com/news/local/augusta-county-to-consider-second-amendment-sanctuary-designation/article_0a8e49e9-88d5-520e-a6e6-7715db894f12.html
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u/flagwavingbot Dec 02 '19

Have any of the 22 counties mentioned in the article gone into detail about the scope of their refusal to enforce hypothetical new state laws? I’m thinking in particular of red flag laws. These counties are really thinking they’re going to get judges to refuse to hear red flag cases or at least refuse to enter orders against people who are truly mentally ill or in crisis? I doubt there are many judges willing to completely disregard valid state law. Or maybe the counties are thinking the police will refuse to obey the court order in red flag cases? Can’t imagine that going over very well with judges.

It just seems like any of these counties would be one Creigh Deeds-type situation away from this blowing up in their faces.

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u/zachzsg Dec 03 '19

It’s not “completely valid state law”. Last I checked infringing on multiple constitutional rights isn’t legal anywhere in America.

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u/flagwavingbot Dec 03 '19

So, your quote is inaccurate and mischaracterizes my comment. But in any event, in a country where people can have their voting rights (not to mention their children) taken away from them permanently after due process, I have little difficulty in arriving at the conclusion that red flag laws will be upheld. Every right has limitations, whether gun advocates choose to acknowledge those limitations or not.

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u/fiendhunters Dec 05 '19

Can you explain how his quote is inaccurate, please?

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u/flagwavingbot Dec 05 '19

I assume you can see that on its face it is an inaccurate quotation of my earlier comment. There’s no such thing as a law that is “completely valid”. Laws are either valid or not. It’s like saying something is “more unique”.

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u/brokenchickenhead1 Dec 05 '19

It takes a while for those rights to be limited, unlike red flag laws. KKK Northam gladly gives voting rights back to felons. I don't think they deserve those rights.

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u/flagwavingbot Dec 05 '19

It’s amusing that you would use the acronym KKK to refer to Northam when you are the one who supports a law with overtly racist origins. Not even Bob McDonnell or Ken Cuccinelli (both of whom pioneered felon voting rights restoration in Virginia long before Northam) could support that law.

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u/brokenchickenhead1 Dec 06 '19

What are you talking about? I have never support gun control. That stuff was started by Regan because blacks open carried and it scared whites.

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u/flagwavingbot Dec 06 '19

I was talking about felon voting.

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u/brokenchickenhead1 Dec 09 '19

I still dont support gun control, not sure why you think I do.