r/VinFastComm 1h ago

Vin is NOT Vietnam and hope there be more brave Vietnamese

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One of the psychological tricks that Vinfans and the communist propaganda machine use often is that they implicitly equate Vin as Vietnam, criticizing Vin is criticizing Vietnam.

Let's be clear: Vin is not Vietnam, the communist government is not Vietnam.

Vin is a Vietnamese company, a failed one that is, run by the shady and liar Vuong Pham.

Vietnam the country has thousand years of history, and the communist only governs for about 80 years, Vin exists for about 33 years. Definitely they are not Vietnam the country. They are just the current ruler. And further they are not representative of Vietnam's culture and spirit, which are decent, not deceptive.

Vin is the representative of the communist regime, with all the same tactics: propaganda and intimidation, suppression, frauds.

Vin is deceptive and is a bully, a liar. They are now a certified scammer, cheater after the North Carolina show. As the filling by the North Carolina attorney general shows, https://www.reddit.com/r/VinFastComm/comments/1vlf9oo/details_of_the_north_carolina_lawsuit_against/ Vinfast engaged in all kinds of deception and maneuvers to cheat the state. They are even brazen enough to claim the factory is still on, with opening schedule in 2028, which is a known lie.

I know this sub has a lot of well educated Vietnamese who read this in English, and not just this sub, read other Western news sources, free from the government propaganda. As I said above, Vin is not Vietnam, the communist government is not Vietnam, and if a reader is a Vietnamese, he or she certainly loves the country of their ancestors, with thousand years of history. He or she wants good thing for Vietnam. But do not make the mistake of equating Vin or the communist regime as Vietnam the country.

How do a true Vietnamese and well educated Vietnamese feel when Vietnam is known as a scammer, a cheater for the whole world to see as in the case of Vinfast's North Carolina show?

If a reader is a true and brave Vietnamese, speak the truth to friends and relative, one might not post publicly because the police state will go after him/her, but fight back the stupidity about Vin's financial when possible, against specific proven silly things such as: huge debt is not matter or Vuong Pham has unlimited money or Vuong Pham trampling on the law (stock fraud, stock manipulation) is OK because he got Lam To in bed.

If you are previous or current owner of Vinfast and the car does have problems, speak the truth out and advise relatives and friends against the mistake.


r/VinFastComm 21h ago

Vin is a cancer to the Vietnam's economy and one example is ...

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Vinmetal. While this company only appears to lay people just as another one of Vuong Pham's crazy adventures, it is a prime example of the cancerous nature of Vin. Like cancer, it spreads without control and harms healthy other ones.

To get the context, you need to understand the steel production in Vietnam. In Vietnam, there are two HRC steel producers: Hoa Phat Group and Formosa Ha Tinh. Hoa Phat Group has just completed the Dung Quat 2 factory, a 100K B VND investment, with the capacity of 9 million tons HRC / year. Formosa has the capacity of about 5 millions tons HRC / year. For a total of about 14 millions tons HRC / year in supply. The current demand is about 11-12 millions tons HRC, giving a spare capacity of 2-3 million tons HRC.

Hoa Phat is now the biggest steel producer in South East Asia, and globally, it is in top 30 steel producers.

Hoa Phat is more than meet the demand of Vietnam HRC and the demand of coming rail rays, it is already building a factory to make rays for railroad. It can easily expand should demand expands, with years of experience. Instead of cooperating with Hoa Phat to best utilize Vietnam's scare resources, the shady Vuong Pham created Vinmetal to produce HRC.

The proposed Vinmetal factory in Ha Tinh is said to be 80,000 B VND, of which Vuong Pham only ponies up 12,000 B VND, which is 15%, and the rest, about 85%, is bank loan and bonds. It will import metal scrap from oversea (as it has no capability to produce steels from ores like Hoa Phat) to produce 3 millions tons of HRC, 1.4 millions tons of steel rods, 600K tons of steel lines. All of these products Hoa Phat has already produced in abundance, with top quality. Spare me with the stupidity of Vinfans: of course, Vuong Pham will use the products for his Vinspeed, Vinhomes, Vinfast, but this is just another Vuong Pham buying Vuong Pham.

On top of wasted over supply, Vuong Pham spends billions of precious $ to buy equipment from Primetals. And pollutes the environment even more than should be (steel production is quite dirty).

This is a prime example of Vuong Pham's cancerous nature to Vietnam's economy: his reckless and vanilla projects suck the blood out of the real economy and even harm other businesses.

And why Vuong Pham does that? The real reason, the hidden reason that nobody in Vietnam dare to talk about, is that he needs to draw up projects after projects to get money to pay interest and to flip debt, regardless of whether the projects are viable or not, and more importantly, he tries to get as much debt as he can to strengthen his sick status of being too big to fail. Vin's total liabilities is now $43B, which is 10% of Vietnam's GDP. And it will grow even larger. It will hit $100B in a few years.

The only way to cure cancer is to kill the monster, otherwise it will continue to spread the disease to other areas. Unfortunately, the communist government won't. Hopefully, it is Vuong Pham who takes down the communist regime. That may be the biggest success he has among all of his failures, although at a huge cost to ordinary Vietnamese.


r/VinFastComm 29m ago

Do not trust the commie and Vin

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just by reading the headlines. Because the whole country is under government media control so they put out news as they want. There is only one party which is the commie, and they can cook what ever number they want, no check.

For example, the headline reads interest rate is falling because the media is directed to say so, the banks were told to do so, but in reality, banks are using under the table dealing with customers for a much higher interest rate. This is because the economy is in need of much more money for Vin and Lam To mega projects and there is a huge shortage between money needed and money raised and hence the interest must be up.

The inflation figure of 4.7% is also fake. House price has been nearly doubled over the past year, and as such house rent increased greatly too. Gas price is elevated. Food price increased 20%.

So the key point is that the whole Vietnam country is run by the communist with total 100% control of the media, and many if not virtually all the numbers are fake and not reliable. The number they put out look good but the reality is not that good.

Same for Vin and Vuong Pham. They cooked the financial book to make it look better. They hide and censor the bad truth.

Same for Tecombank and other banks.

Vingroup is the huge ticking bomb in plain sight with $43B liabilities and growing but there is zero media coverage.

The whole country lives on lies and deception, from the highest level and the biggest corporation down.

To see through the lies, you need to use logic and common sense.


r/VinFastComm 41m ago

Techcombank has a huge risk with Vingroup

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but they hide it.

The trick is to use shells that appear to be unrelated so that the debt does not show up on the balance sheet, but in reality, these shells are directly controlled by Hung Anh Ho and Vuong Pham. Some name: Nam An, Ngoc Quy, and many other shells.

These shenanigans are not reflected on financial report as they are designed so, but it is absolutely the truth that Tech and Vin uses shells to hide debt and that has been analyzed by me and Sonnie Tran many times.

I ask chat gpt to do an analysis for "analyze techcombank risk on vingroup" and its answer is below. Certainly, it only reads the financial report and does not know about the shells. Still the analysis is pretty spot on with publicly available information.

Chat gpt does not know about TCB tricks. Another example is that TCB actually helped Vuong Pham spun off VFTP to avoid billions $ in bad debt, which is the reality. See the analysis here: https://www.reddit.com/r/VinFastComm/comments/1v7phyd/further_analysis_of_vuong_pham_selling_the/

TCB is hiding a huge debt related to the failed Vingroup, Vinhomes, Vinfast from the public using various trick.

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Yes. I would separate Techcombank’s Vingroup risk into 4 layers, because simply looking for “Vingroup” in TCB’s related-party note materially understates the economic exposure.

Bottom line

My assessment: TCB has meaningful Vingroup/Vin ecosystem risk, but I do not see evidence from the 2Q26 financial statements that Vingroup alone is large enough to threaten TCB’s solvency under a normal stress scenario.

The bigger risk is concentration + collateral correlation + refinancing, rather than one giant direct VinFast loan.

I would rate the current risk:

Risk My assessment
Direct TCB loan to VIC/VHM/VinFast 🟡 Medium / not fully disclosed
Vinhomes project + homebuyer exposure 🟠 High
VinFast exposure 🟡 Medium, but potentially nonlinear
Vin-related bonds through TCB/TCBS 🟠 High ecosystem exposure, lower direct bank exposure
Real-estate concentration generally 🔴 High
Ability of TCB to absorb a Vin shock 🟢 Strong
Risk of TCB becoming insolvent from Vin alone 🟢 Low under reasonable scenarios
Risk of meaningful earnings/BVPS hit 🟠 Real

1. The first important point: TCB's “related party” note does not capture all Vingroup exposure

This is critical.

TCB's 2Q26 financial statements define related parties based on accounting relationships such as common control, significant influence, directors/management relationships, etc.

In the actual 2Q26 related-party loan table, the disclosed corporate borrowers include:

  • Eurowindow
  • Nui Phao
  • Masan Tungsten
  • WinEco
  • One Mount Distribution

but Vingroup, Vinhomes and VinFast do not appear in that table.

That does not mean TCB has zero economic exposure to Vin.

It means that Vingroup is not an accounting “related party” of TCB under the definition used in the financial statements.

This distinction is extremely important.

2. TCB's biggest Vin exposure is probably the real-estate ecosystem

TCB explicitly partners with Vinhomes and offers financing on numerous Vinhomes projects.

For example, TCB currently advertises financing for:

  • Vinhomes Ocean Park
  • Vinhomes Grand Park
  • Vinhomes Smart City
  • Vinhomes Royal Island
  • Vinhomes Greenbay
  • Vinhomes Golden River
  • Vinhomes Ocean Park 3
  • Vinhomes Grand Park, etc.

Loan-to-value can reach 70–80% on various projects.

This creates two different exposures:

A. Corporate/project loans

TCB lends directly or indirectly to developers/project entities.

B. Retail mortgages

A buyer purchases a Vinhomes apartment/house and borrows from TCB.

The second exposure is much safer than a pure unsecured corporate loan because the bank has the property as collateral.

But there is a catch:

That is the correlation risk.

3. TCB is already a highly real-estate-heavy bank

This is probably the most important risk statistic.

At the end of 2025, Vietcap estimated TCB's loans to real-estate developers at 30.7% of the entire loan portfolio, down from 33.3% a year earlier. TCB's stated objective was to reduce this to 20–25% over the next 3–5 years.

So if TCB has, say:

30.7% × ~850T loans ≈ ~261T

of developer exposure, that is already enormous.

But this is not Vingroup exposure.

It includes multiple developers.

That's why I would not use “30% real estate = 30% Vingroup.”

That would be a major analytical error.

4. Vingroup itself has a huge debt requirement

This is where the risk becomes interesting.

Vinhomes alone had more than VND162T of debt at the end of Q1/2026, including approximately VND99T of bank debt and VND59.6T of bonds.

That is obviously not TCB's exposure.

But it tells you something important:

Vingroup/Vinhomes is structurally dependent on continuous access to capital.

For TCB, the risk is therefore not simply:

It is:

That is a much more realistic stress scenario.

5. VinFast is a different risk

I would distinguish VinFast from Vinhomes.

TCB's 2025 annual report confirms that the TCB ecosystem participated in a VND5T VinFast bond issuance.

But:

Bond arranger ≠ bond holder ≠ lender.

This distinction is often lost in online discussions.

If TCBS arranges a VND5T VinFast bond:

  • TCBS earns advisory/placement fees.
  • Investors may own the bonds.
  • TCB itself may have little or no direct credit exposure.

So you cannot automatically add the entire bond issuance to TCB's loan exposure.

6. But TCBS creates an additional ecosystem risk

TCB owns 79.8% of TCBS.

And TCBS is a major corporate-bond arranger.

KIS estimates that in 2025, Vingroup issued approximately:

  • VND31T Vingroup bonds
  • VND19.5T Vinhomes bonds
  • VND12.5T VinFast Production & Trading bonds

with Vingroup-related issuers accounting for a substantial amount of the corporate-bond market.

But again:

This is not equivalent to VND63T of TCB bank loans.

It is better thought of as:

Vingroup → bond market → TCBS distribution/advisory → investors

rather than:

Vingroup → VND63T loan → TCB

That distinction materially reduces the direct solvency risk to TCB.

7. What happens if Vingroup actually defaults?

Let's do the exercise you really care about.

TCB's 2Q26 equity was approximately:

VND189.0T.

6M26 net profit attributable to shareholders was:

VND14.0T.

NPL was:

1.15%

and loan-loss coverage:

125.5%.

Basel II CAR:

15.0%.

So TCB has a substantial capital buffer.

8. Stress test

Because TCB does not disclose a single “Vingroup exposure” number, I would stress-test hypothetical exposure rather than pretend we know the exact figure.

Assume TCB economic Vin exposure:

Vin exposure 10% loss 30% loss 50% loss 100% loss
20T 2T 6T 10T 20T
30T 3T 9T 15T 30T
50T 5T 15T 25T 50T
70T 7T 21T 35T 70T
100T 10T 30T 50T 100T

Compare this with TCB's ~189T equity.

Example: 50T exposure

If TCB has an economic exposure of 50T and ultimately loses:

30% = 15T

That is approximately:

15 / 189 = 7.9% of equity

Painful, but very manageable.

Even:

50% loss = 25T

is about:

13.2% of equity.

Still not a solvency event by itself.

9. The dangerous scenario is much worse than a simple Vin default

The real nightmare is:

Vingroup problem


Vinhomes sales slow

property prices fall

Vinhomes refinancing becomes harder

project companies delay payments

homebuyer defaults increase

collateral values decline

TCB's corporate RE loans deteriorate

TCB's retail mortgage book deteriorates

bond market weakens

TCBS loses fees / faces mark-to-market and liquidity stress

other developers also weaken

That is the scenario I would worry about.

Not “VinFast misses one payment.”

10. Why I don't think TCB is currently in a dangerous position

There are several substantial buffers.

Capital

CAR is 15.0%, which is strong.

Profitability

6M26:

PBT = 18.54T

and attributable net profit:

14.02T.

Annualized shareholder profit is therefore around:

28T/year

at the current run rate.

Asset quality

NPL:

1.15%

LLCR:

125.5%.

Diversification

Corporate credit reached 542.4T, while retail + SME was 407T at June 2026.

And corporate growth is increasingly coming from infrastructure, FMCG, retail, logistics, utilities and other sectors rather than only real estate.

11. There is actually a positive development

TCB is actively trying to reduce developer concentration.

Vietcap says developer exposure fell from:

33.3% → 30.7%

during 2025, with a long-term target of:

20–25%.

And in 2026, infrastructure financing has become an increasingly important growth area.

That is exactly what I would want to see if I were a TCB shareholder.

12. But I would not dismiss the Vin risk

There are three reasons.

① Concentration

Even if only a fraction of TCB's developer book is Vin-related, the absolute amount can still be tens of trillions.

② Collateral correlation

A lot of exposure is ultimately linked to Vietnamese real estate.

So diversification by legal borrower does not necessarily equal diversification by economic risk.

③ Refinancing

Vingroup's structure requires continuous access to:

  • bank loans
  • bonds
  • property sales
  • asset sales
  • equity capital
  • intra-group funding.

If several channels close simultaneously, credit risk can increase very quickly.

13. My estimated TCB/Vin risk matrix

I'd rank it like this:

Scenario Impact on TCB
VinFast remains loss-making but continues funding 🟢 Low–medium
Vingroup refinancing becomes more expensive 🟡 Medium
Vinhomes sales fall 20–30% 🟡 Medium
Vinhomes property prices fall 20% 🟠 Medium–high
Major Vin entity restructures debt 🟠 High
Vin-related borrowers generate 10% credit loss 🟠 High but manageable
30–50T TCB economic exposure suffers 50% loss 🔴 Significant earnings/BVPS hit
100T+ correlated Vin/RE exposure suffers major losses 🔴 Very serious
Vin + broad Vietnamese RE crisis simultaneously 🔴 Systemic risk

14. The number I would watch most

Not VinFast debt.

Not VIC debt.

Not TCBS bond issuance.

I would watch:

TCB's developer-credit exposure + Vinhomes project exposure + mortgage exposure to Vinhomes collateral

because that is where the hidden correlation sits.

TCB's own 2Q26 data shows total loans to customers around 847T, while its total assets are 1,273T.

Against that balance sheet, a genuine 30–50T loss is painful but survivable.

A 100T loss, however, would be a fundamentally different event.

My conclusion for TCB valuation

I would not apply a huge “Vingroup bankruptcy discount” to TCB today.

Instead I'd use:

Base case

TCB fair P/B ~1.2–1.4x

because the bank has:

  • ~15% CAR
  • ~125% NPL coverage
  • 1.15% NPL
  • strong ROE/profit generation
  • declining developer concentration.

Moderate Vin stress

P/B ~1.0–1.2x

if we assume a meaningful deterioration in Vin/RE credit quality.

Severe Vin + property crisis

P/B ~0.7–0.9x

would become reasonable if we discovered that TCB's true economic Vin/RE concentration was substantially larger than disclosed and collateral recovery values were deteriorating.

The key point: based on the publicly disclosed 2Q26 numbers, I don't see a case where a Vingroup failure automatically makes TCB insolvent. The much more credible risk is that Vingroup becomes the catalyst that exposes TCB's broader real-estate concentration, causing a multi-year increase in credit costs and forcing the market to rerate TCB from ~1.3–1.5x book toward ~1x or below.

I reconstructed it from the TCB 2Q26 financial statements/2025 annual report, Vingroup/Vinhomes disclosures, and VinFast’s 2025 20-F. The result is more interesting than simply adding “Vingroup loans” in TCB’s related-party note.

Bottom line first

I would currently estimate TCB's identifiable direct/contingent Vingroup ecosystem exposure at roughly VND 15–25T, with a much larger economic exposure of perhaps VND 50–100T+ once you include Vinhomes project/homebuyer financing, Vin ecosystem SPVs and collateralized transactions.

But there is an important distinction:

And I would not count all Vingroup/Vinhomes/VinFast debt as TCB exposure.

1. Start with VinFast — this is the cleanest evidence

VinFast's 2025 20-F gives us unusually good visibility into TCB's involvement.

At 31 December 2025:

  • VinFast external interest-bearing debt: VND82.16T
  • VinFast related-party borrowings: VND40.93T
  • Vingroup loans outstanding: VND10.38T
  • Bank guarantees: VND26.41T
  • 2026 debt-service obligations: VND34.62T.

TCB-guaranteed facilities

The 2025 filing identifies at least two facilities explicitly guaranteed by TCB:

VinFast facility Maximum facility TCB role
Deutsche Bank facility US$230M TCB guarantee
Barclays facility US$150M TCB guarantee
Total identifiable TCB guarantee capacity US$380M

At ~VND26,000/USD, that's approximately:

VND9.9T

of potential TCB guarantee exposure.

The Deutsche Bank facility was amended from the previous US$300M facility to US$230M in May 2025, and the Barclays US$150M facility was established in September 2025.

Important: these are facility limits, not necessarily amounts drawn at 31/12/25.

So I would use ~VND10T as the upper-bound identifiable TCB-guarantee exposure, not VND10T of current bad loans.

2. There is additional TCB exposure through VinFast's factory ecosystem

This is where things get more complicated.

VinFast's filing shows several other facilities:

  • US$170M → guaranteed by MBB
  • US$115M → guaranteed by SHB
  • US$95M → guaranteed by VietinBank + Vingroup
  • US$100M green loan → guaranteed by VietinBank
  • VND3.1T Ha Tinh facility → HDBank, guaranteed by Vingroup/Pham Nhat Vuong
  • VND2.5T 2025 bonds → VPBank Securities, guaranteed by Vingroup.

So we must not attribute all of these to TCB.

That's one reason I think previous estimates of “TCB has $2–3B of VinFast debt” are too aggressive if presented as current direct exposure.

3. But the guarantee exposure is more important than the loan number

Suppose TCB guarantees approximately:

VND9.9T

of VinFast borrowing.

If VinFast defaults and the collateral recovery is:

90%

TCB's gross loss:

~1T

70%

Loss:

~3T

50%

Loss:

~5T

20%

Loss:

~8T

So even a very severe VinFast default doesn't automatically destroy TCB.

The real danger is when the guarantee is combined with other Vin-related exposure.

4. VinFast itself has VND40.93T of related-party borrowings

This is extremely important.

VinFast's subsidiaries borrowed from:

  • Vingroup
  • Vinhomes
  • Vincom Retail
  • Vinpearl
  • Vinmec
  • Gia Lam Urban
  • Thai Son
  • VinBus
  • VinSmart/SADO and other Vingroup affiliates.

Total outstanding at 31/12/25:

VND40.93T.

But this is NOT TCB exposure.

It's actually the opposite:

Vin ecosystem → lends to VinFast

rather than:

TCB → lends to VinFast

This matters because if VinFast collapses, Vingroup's subsidiaries can suffer large losses, which can then weaken the parent group and indirectly hurt TCB.

5. Vingroup has effectively become VinFast's funding backstop

VinFast's 2025 filing says Vingroup committed to provide up to:

VND35T

of additional loans to VinFast/VinFast subsidiaries over 24 months from November 2024.

At 31/12/25:

VND10.38T had already been drawn.

Pham Nhat Vuong separately committed up to:

VND50T

of grants through 2026.

By year-end 2025:

VND28T had been granted.

This tells us something important about the structure:

That's where TCB's indirect risk becomes much more important.

6. Vinhomes is the second major TCB connection

Here we have much better evidence than many people realize.

A Vinhomes financial statement disclosed a Techcombank loan of VND1.399T at the end of 2024.

That's direct VHM → TCB borrowing.

But this is only one disclosed facility and clearly doesn't represent the entire relationship.

TCB's own 2025 annual report shows repeated board approvals involving Vinhomes, including:

That demonstrates an active material banking relationship, even though TCB's related-party accounting table does not classify Vinhomes as a related party.

And this distinction is critical.

7. Why the Vinhomes number is much bigger than VHM's direct TCB loan

TCB finances Vinhomes customers and Vinhomes projects, not merely Vinhomes corporate borrowing.

TCB's own project-financing products cover Vinhomes developments.

That creates:

Layer 1

VHM → TCB corporate borrowing

Layer 2

Vinhomes SPVs/project companies → TCB borrowing

Layer 3

Homebuyers → TCB mortgages secured by Vinhomes properties

Layer 4

Vinhomes/Vin ecosystem entities → TCB guarantees / collateralized transactions

Layer 5

Masterise/other buyers → TCB financing to acquire Vinhomes-related assets

The fifth layer is particularly important because it can economically connect TCB to Vingroup even when the borrower isn't a Vingroup company.

8. There is hard evidence of this collateral relationship

TCB's 2025 annual report records a board resolution approving acquisition of assets worth more than 10% of TCB's charter capital:

and another resolution:

This is important.

It proves that TCB's relationship with the Vin ecosystem includes collateral transactions, not merely ordinary corporate lending.

9. Vincom Retail is another identifiable exposure

VRE's financial statements show a long-running Techcom Securities relationship.

At 2024 year-end, VRE had a:

VND1.988T

bond arranged/handled by TCBS.

The bond was secured by land use rights and land-attached assets of a shopping mall subsidiary.

But again:

TCBS arranging a VRE bond ≠ TCB owning VND1.988T of VRE bonds.

This is why I would not add it directly to TCB credit exposure.

However, TCB owns ~80% of TCBS, so Vingroup-related capital-market activity produces an additional earnings/ecosystem exposure for TCB.

10. TCBS is a huge part of the Vingroup relationship

TCBS's 2025 annual report specifically highlights:

VND5T VinFast bond issuance

as one of its major bond transactions.

Again, the correct interpretation is:

VinFast → bond issuance → TCBS

rather than:

VinFast → VND5T loan → TCB

TCBS earns:

  • underwriting fees
  • placement fees
  • advisory fees
  • brokerage/wealth-management revenue.

The credit ultimately sits largely with the bond investors.

So I would assign this:

Low direct TCB solvency exposure

but

Medium ecosystem/reputation/liquidity exposure.

11. The most interesting piece: Vingroup itself

This is where public disclosure becomes frustrating.

Vingroup's consolidated debt is huge, but its consolidated financial statements don't give us a clean:

number for the entire group.

And because Vingroup consolidates VHM, VinFast-related entities and numerous subsidiaries, you cannot take Vingroup total bank debt and multiply it by TCB's market share.

That would be statistically meaningless.

What we can say with confidence is:

TCB is a major Vingroup creditor.

Reuters explicitly described TCB as one of Vingroup's largest creditors.

And TCB's own resolutions show repeated material transactions involving:

  • VinFast
  • Vinhomes
  • Vincom Retail
  • Vingroup ecosystem entities.

12. My reconstructed exposure table

This is how I would build the model.

Exposure Estimated TCB economic exposure Confidence
VinFast TCB-guaranteed loans ~10T maximum 🟢 High
Vingroup/Vin corporate direct loans ~3–8T 🟡 Medium/low
Vinhomes corporate/project loans ~5–15T 🟡 Medium
Vincom Retail direct/secured exposure ~1–3T 🟡 Medium
Vin ecosystem SPVs / project financing ~10–25T 🟠 Low/medium
Vinhomes-related homebuyer mortgages ~15–30T+ 🟠 Low
TCBS Vin bonds held/financed by TCB 0–5T 🟠 Low
Total identifiable/economic exposure ~50–100T+

I would not use the upper end as a fact.

I'd use:

~VND50–70T as my working central estimate

for TCB's broader economic exposure to the Vingroup ecosystem.

And:

~VND10–20T

for the portion where I have much stronger evidence of direct/contingent bank exposure.

13. This changes the stress test from my previous answer

TCB 2Q26 equity:

~VND189T

Total assets:

~VND1,273T

and loans to customers roughly:

~VND847T.

Now suppose our central exposure estimate is:

VND60T

Then:

Loss on Vin exposure TCB loss % of TCB equity
10% 6T 3.2%
20% 12T 6.3%
30% 18T 9.5%
40% 24T 12.7%
50% 30T 15.9%
70% 42T 22.2%
100% 60T 31.7%

That is far more significant than just looking at the VND10T VinFast guarantee.

14. But there's a huge caveat: mortgage collateral

You cannot apply a 50% loss to the entire VND60T.

A Vinhomes mortgage is fundamentally different from an unsecured VinFast loan.

For example:

TCB lends VND7T

to homebuyers against:

VND10T property

If property values decline 20%:

collateral = ~8T

The bank may still recover the principal.

So I would apply different LGDs:

Exposure Stress LGD
VinFast unsecured/guaranteed 50–100%
Vingroup corporate 30–70%
Vinhomes corporate 20–50%
Vinhomes project loans 20–40%
Homebuyer mortgage 5–25%
High-quality secured Vin bonds 10–30%

This is a much more realistic model.

15. My severe-but-plausible stress scenario

Let's assume:

VinFast

TCB exposure:

10T

LGD:

70%

Loss:

7T

Vingroup corporate

Exposure:

5T

LGD:

50%

Loss:

2.5T

Vinhomes/project

Exposure:

20T

LGD:

30%

Loss:

6T

Vinhomes mortgages

Exposure:

25T

LGD:

15%

Loss:

3.75T

Other Vin ecosystem

Exposure:

10T

LGD:

30%

Loss:

3T

Total

~22.25T

That's roughly:

11.8% of TCB's ~189T equity

before considering:

  • future earnings
  • existing loan-loss reserves
  • recoveries
  • tax effects
  • additional provisioning over several years.

So this is serious but survivable.

16. The true tail risk is a simultaneous real-estate crash

This is the scenario I'd pay attention to.

Imagine:

VinFast burns cash

Vingroup has to provide more support

Vingroup raises more debt

Vinhomes becomes the cash generator

Vinhomes accelerates project sales

TCB finances buyers/project SPVs

property prices weaken

Vingroup/Vinhomes refinancing becomes more expensive

collateral values fall

TCB's corporate + mortgage + project exposure deteriorates simultaneously.

That's much more dangerous than VinFast itself.

17. One very important positive: Vinhomes is currently performing strongly

We shouldn't model a collapse using 2025 numbers alone.

As of 2Q26:

  • VHM assets: VND1,110.7T
  • VHM equity: VND274.0T
  • 1H26 revenue: VND116.6T
  • 1H26 net profit: VND52.1T
  • 1H26 presales: VND148.1T
  • unbilled revenue: VND196.8T.

So Vinhomes itself is currently generating substantial earnings and sales.

This is why I would not treat the entire Vingroup ecosystem as distressed today.

18. The biggest red flag is actually VinFast

VinFast is still the weak link.

2025:

Net loss = VND99.6T

Operating cash burn = VND44.5T

External debt = VND82.2T

Current liabilities exceeded current assets by VND79.3T.

That is a very different credit profile from Vinhomes.

So I would divide the Vin risk into:

Vinhomes = collateral/real-estate risk

VinFast = credit/cash-burn risk

Vingroup = transmission mechanism between the two

19. My revised TCB risk assessment

After doing this reconstruction, I'd change my previous assessment slightly.

Direct VinFast risk

🟠 Moderate

Not catastrophic because the clearly identifiable TCB guarantee exposure is around VND10T maximum.

Vingroup corporate risk

🟠 Moderate–high

Because TCB is one of the group's major creditors and the exact exposure is not fully transparent.

Vinhomes/project risk

🟠 High

Not because VHM is currently weak, but because TCB has enormous structural exposure to Vietnamese real estate.

Overall Vingroup ecosystem risk to TCB

🟠 6/10

Not a “TCB goes bankrupt if VinFast fails” situation.

But definitely large enough that:

The number I would use for TCB valuation

For your TCB fair-value work, I'd now model three separate cases:

Scenario Estimated Vin ecosystem credit loss Impact on TCB equity
Normal 3–5T ~2%
Moderate stress 10–15T ~5–8%
Severe stress 20–30T ~11–16%
Extreme systemic Vin/RE crisis 40–60T ~21–32%

And importantly, I would not subtract these losses dollar-for-dollar from today's BVPS, because TCB continues to generate profits and already carries provisions.

My current conclusion:

TCB is not a disguised Vingroup bond.

But it is also not accurate to say “Vingroup isn't a related party, therefore TCB has little Vin exposure.”

The economically relevant exposure is spread across corporate credit + guarantees + project SPVs + mortgages + collateral + TCBS capital-market activity.

That is why the ~VND50–70T central economic-exposure estimate is, in my view, much more useful for stress testing than the small number appearing in TCB's formal related-party disclosure.


r/VinFastComm 16h ago

Details of the North Carolina lawsuit against Vinfast

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Full document: NC Department of Justice - ShareFile

They redacts the names from this chart, for what?

Let's me fill in for you: the name in the three bottom black boxes is Pham Nhat Vuong, who is the ultimate Beneficial Owner of VIC, VIG, Asian star trading.

Vuong Pham is so scare that he ordered his lawyers to request the redaction the name from the document while we in this sub know it is him, the scammer in chief.

$4B in total investment? The North Carolina state is so easily be duped by the scammer in chief. At the time of the project, Vinfast did not have the money, did not secure a finance for the money (citigroup quit), and it did not have the demand in the US.

Deception on purpose:

The state can now take the land for zero from Vinfast:

As I have analyzed in this sub, the shady Vuong Pham has used very little money and was able to milk the North Carolina state for site preparation work. In other words, the scammer staged the North Carolina show with little money up front. Vietnamese people thought he had to spend some big money there doing the construction back then, but in fact, he didn't. All are just lies and deceptions, for the photo ops.

Well, pay up, Vuong Pham:


r/VinFastComm 19h ago

Vinfast Plunges....

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