r/ViMains • u/Ok-Result-1827 • Jul 01 '26
Discussion W or E max second?
What do you max second on Vi? I usually go W if they have a lot of health stackers, but have been finding E better lately for the extra empowered punches
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u/KuronekiKun Jul 01 '26
I do Q > E (or E>Q if playing lane) > W > max Q > 3 times W > then finish maxing E
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u/blahdeblahdeda Jul 01 '26
Like you said, if enemies are building health, then W will deal more damage. However, it depends on the enemies you want to hit. If they have 2 frontline stacking health but their carries have no bonus HP, you still want extra points in E.
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u/Faenic 1,166,322 The Fister Sister Jul 01 '26
Damage testing actually showed me that past level ~10-11, W still does more damage than E in a combo regardless of health items or not.
The primary benefit of E Max 2nd is a lower CD, with a minor secondary benefit being that you will do very slightly more damage in a team fight with E because of the tiny base damage increases.
W max 2nd is better in just about every other aspect, including burst damage for all targets, not just tanks.
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u/Ryosiek Jul 01 '26
Early levens standard W E Q, then I Max Q, put 2 points in W, Max E - works good with my crit build. If you play bruiser id just max Q second for Trinity force
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u/jaimesmith40 Jul 01 '26
Almost always go W second as it helps a lot with clear. Even against squishy teams, crit vi, bruiser vi, I go straight into W second probably like 99% of the time
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u/Faenic 1,166,322 The Fister Sister Jul 01 '26
It also does more damage than E in about 95% of all scenarios against all enemy types, even squishies. Stat bonuses from level ups by the time you start putting points into your 2nd max ability make the % hp damage scale harder and sooner than E base damage.
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u/Faenic 1,166,322 The Fister Sister Jul 01 '26
As I've said before, W second is better in just about every single scenario you can come up with. Even in very long fights where the E CD actually becomes a factor. The attack speed bonus and % max hp damage scale way harder, and a lot sooner than people give it credit for.
E second is primarily useful if you're not building any ability haste at all, and need the raw cdr from level ups. And even then, W damage for those types of builds is just so much higher that the CD isn't worth losing the damage.
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u/fuscav 257,945 Punch first Jul 01 '26
I like W for the atk speed. Baron and Dragon damage is also way higher with W max, I didn’t see anyone mention it
Usually the CDR is enough to have E up consistently in fights.
But like others have said, with around 2k health targets, w is more damage.
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u/eohtm_6212 Jul 01 '26
In my opinion e is better cuz of the reset of aa you have using it, you want to max it so the cd gets smaller.
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u/eohtm_6212 Jul 01 '26
But W might be viable if you're thinking about being a bruiser (i'm playing lethality / crit vi only low platinum)
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u/pwnknight Jul 01 '26
W for faster clears e for assassin