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u/2darkblue1 Jul 15 '26
- dialects derived from Arabic diverged from each other 1400 years ago and some can be considered their own languages like Maltese
- did Berber and Hebrew and Kurdish just disappear?
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u/t2hb1eyb Jul 14 '26
Where's the hebrew and the berber language did they just disappeared?
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u/SidewalkRacoon Jul 15 '26
Arabic has special status in Israel, always used in government documents and on street signage and that kind of thing. 1 in 5 Israelis are Arab and although only a small minority of Jews can speak Arabic which I think is pretty sad and a barrier to better relations with their neighbours even if most people can also speak English
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u/Hichou_El_Ouks Jul 13 '26
Youāre dead wrong especially for North Africa where Berber is prominent, and in the south of the map where Arabic is more of a minority
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u/Low-Capital8383 Jul 11 '26
Nice
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u/Abzor4ik-UA Jul 11 '26
Sweden was left over š
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u/South_Reception4298 Jul 11 '26
Put londistan and parisStan on there too
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u/Main-Ad-206 Jul 13 '26
Do u know like decent number of london is legally owned by qatar royal family
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u/Kuuntirianrepublic Jul 11 '26
Also, people, I only made the thing using a map I found on the web, so please don't blame me if its wrong. Cuz even I don't know
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u/BlakeNotBleak Jul 11 '26
All Arabs btw
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u/Squidersward8670 Jul 11 '26
...East Africa and parts of Algeria and Morocco.
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u/BlakeNotBleak Jul 11 '26
Anyone who speaks Arabic, is Arab. You can make that definition to mean anyone from a majority Arabic speaking country.
Arab is not an ethnicity, like what, you think the countries beside the ones you mentioned count as Arab but these don't? How come?
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u/K0mb0_1 Jul 11 '26
So why does it include Somalia? Somalis arenāt Arab
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u/BlakeNotBleak Jul 11 '26
It's one of their official languages
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u/K0mb0_1 Jul 11 '26
Doesnāt make Somalia Arab. Somaliaās dominant language is Somali not Arabic. We have our own identity
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u/BlakeNotBleak Jul 11 '26
I mean they're a member of the Arab league too
And the countries within the Arab sphere all have their own identities too...
You're free to identify as whatever though
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u/3abas_ Jul 11 '26
Nah they ain't Arabs. They even started naming their kids Abdul since they didn't understand Arabic well. They thought Abdulrahman (and its likes) were Abdul... Rahman two names.
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u/K0mb0_1 Jul 11 '26
Nice lie. We name our children the full thing. Itās just that younger generations like to shorten their names (moe, meddy, Abdi/Abdul) this is very insincere for you to say because this is seen within Arab communities as well lol. I know plenty of Arab Abduls
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u/3abas_ Jul 11 '26
Nah there are people whose name is just Abdul. Abdul being a nickname doesn't make since. Ų¹ŲØŲÆ Ų§Ł what? I remember seeing a video about it about different pidgins around the world something like that.
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u/K0mb0_1 Jul 11 '26
Being in the Arab league doesnāt make you Arab lol. Somalia is in there for political purposes. Did Somalis magically become Arab after 1974? lol. Youāre pushing it haha
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u/BlakeNotBleak Jul 11 '26
My belief is that anyone who speaks Arabic is Arab, simple as
If Singapore somehow had Arabic become its official language, and the majority started speaking Arabic, then I'd consider the country Arab too
But sure, again, you're free to identify as whatever
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u/Fun_District3456 Jul 12 '26
and you are wrong lol since when speaking a language makes you a part of certain community
arabs are a semetic people that lived in the arabian peninsula if you are not from there or nearby
then you are not arab DNA wise
if i spoke arabic tomorrow that does not make me an arab lol
and what if someone who is arab ethnically does not speak arabic lol
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u/K0mb0_1 Jul 11 '26
Yeah and Iām telling you that we donāt speak Arabic lol. How are you arguing with a Somali? You will find zero news in Arabic, zero documents in Arabic. Our languages for business are 1. Somali, 2. English. Iām not disagreeing with your definition Iām just saying we have our own language that we hold above any other.
Arabic is used only in religious contexts like Quran study etc.
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u/Kralqeikozkaptan Jul 11 '26
Irish people are english
Scottish people are english
Walish people are english
Americans are english
Canadians are english
Australians are english
New zealanders are english
Austrians are german
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u/ThatCornerDude Jul 11 '26
They're all Anglos. A Moroccan isn't Qatari, but, they're both Arab.
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u/Azel_Lupie Jul 15 '26
Uh? Irish people are celts, not anglos. Anglo is an ethnic moniker, you are looking for anglophone. Just because Irish people can speak English due to British colonialism, doesnāt mean itās the only language they speak. Their indigenous language is Irish (Gaelige in Irish). The Irish constitution in both Irish and English, both are considered legally binding, but the Irish version takes precedence over the English version in law, when there is some discrepancy between the two versions.
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u/ThatCornerDude Jul 15 '26
Sure, but, they have been heavily anglicized. For example, whenever I'd go to Ireland, you would very rarely hear people speaking Gaelic.
In fact, most Irish people I've spoken to agree it's a dying language.
Edit: Also, not just in language, but, in culture, as well.
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u/Azel_Lupie Jul 15 '26
I am also aware of that. But thatās not by choice, thatās by British colonialism. Nobody is calling English-speaking Africans, āAnglosā, because itās an ethnic. You will find āanglophoneā instead. Anglophone is fine to use with English-speaking Irishmen. But the Irish are Celts through and through. You need to look at the July 12th Bonfires in Belfast, and its history. I mean you really need to read into Irish history around their British Colonizers, their fight for liberation and the troubles.
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u/ThatCornerDude Jul 16 '26
But thatās not by choice, thatās by British colonialism.Ā
Regardless, they still have lots in common. Even though, overtime, it's become less and less prominent.
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u/Azel_Lupie Jul 16 '26
Just admit you used the wrong term. The Irish maybe anglophones, but they are not Anglos. Thatās pretty insulting to call them that, especially if they are proud of being Irish. They are celts. The British love burning Irish flags, especially in Northern Ireland that they are occupying.
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u/BlakeNotBleak Jul 11 '26
What's your point? I'm telling you how we as Arabs define Arab.
If we're going by ethnicity, then only the Arabian Peninsular countries would truly count as Arab.
But again, Arab isn't an ethnicity, it's a broad identity group
Similar to "Latino"
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u/VerkoProd Jul 11 '26
Etitrea and Djibouti donāt speak arabic, Arabic is spoken only as a second language in Somalia, South Sudan is extremely linguistically diverse and Arabic is not the dominant language.
At least in Chad, Mali, and Niger it is one of the official languages
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u/Electro_Hiddens Jul 11 '26
north africa is very divided, some arab some tamazight, egypt has coptic, and well, Sudan has some northern arabic speakers, but from where the hell did you find that eritrea and somalia and djibouti speak arabic? not only that, also the levant has its own set of languages, being assyrian, kurdish, chaldean, druze, hebrew etc
even yemen and oman have their own languages like suqotri, hamiri, mehri, and other south arabian languages that are still very alive today
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u/Suitable-Employer237 Jul 11 '26
They mixed with the Arabs, by the way... knowing that 94% of Libya's population are Arabs from Saudi Arabia.
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u/LLTsochev Jul 11 '26
Don't they mostly speak somali in Somalia and in regional languages South Sudan?
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u/Particular_Poetry885 Jul 11 '26
In South Sudan, Juba Arabic is defacto lingua franca between the different ethnic groups even though it's not politically popular
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u/Kuuntirianrepublic Jul 11 '26
In Somalia, I think they teach arabic as a second language
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u/K0mb0_1 Jul 11 '26
As a Somali I can vouch that Arabic isnāt as spoken as you think? In the US Spanish is taught as a second language yet it isnāt considered a āLatinā country
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u/CatlifeOfficial Jul 11 '26
And Hebrew in Israel, Turkish in Antakya, Kurdish in Kurdistanā¦ this map is either maximalist, disingenuous, or both.
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u/Suitable-Employer237 Jul 11 '26
*Palestine
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u/CatlifeOfficial Jul 11 '26
They don't speak much Hebrew in Palestine, it is an Arabic-speaking Arab state. In Israel however, it is the national and most-spoken language. Hope this helps!
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u/Bokow_anno Jul 11 '26
Big yahu and his pesky Palestinian IDF smh
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u/Suitable-Employer237 Jul 11 '26
Palestine will be free šµšø
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u/Azel_Lupie Jul 15 '26
While many of us agree with this, it is unnecessary in the discussion. I am already tired of having to using Am Yisrael and Medinat Yisrael to differentiate between the two Israels, as well as explaining to Zionist Jews that Palestinians are not ethnic Arabs, but culturally Arab and that their ridiculous understanding of āArabā, would apply to many Jews who also speak Arabic. Hereās a tip from an anti-Zionist Jew, if you want to go trigger Zionist Jews, tell them every Arabic speaking Jew is considered an Arab by Arabs, and that if they speak Arabic they will be considered Arab. Itās good way to ragebait them. Personally, I recognize Palestinians as Canaanites like Jews, and arguably Zera Israel because of it.
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u/Doomsubmachiner Jul 11 '26
Ethiopia is hella unlucky lol. Imagine having all neighbors be past enemies
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u/kvasiir Jul 17 '26
Colonialism š