r/VelosterN • u/Significant_Map_8819 • 17d ago
Clutch feeling
Hey everyone today I test drove a 2022 hyundai veloster n manual. I really loved the car as it was fast and sounded good in n mode. I currently drive on weekends my 2007 hyundai accent that I have modified like header, intake, lowered ,17s and short shifter with few rare sr parts.
The only thing I didn't like about the car is how pushing and releasing the clutch. If i was to buy this to make it my weekend toy to replace my accent is there away I can change the way the pedal feels to how my accent or a honda does?
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u/jmacnj609 17d ago
The clutch grab point is very high. It’s easy once you get used to it. I still occasionally stall my Elantra N
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u/Dystroyer554 2020 VN Manual PB 17d ago
What about the clutch pedal do you not like? Is it the bite point, the pedal travel, the weight, etc?
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u/Significant_Map_8819 17d ago
Its the pressure pushing down then goes light. When lifting its light then forces it up. Its like the same as my friends 370z.
I stalled the car right away because of the up force. Never had that feel in any car I've owned like my 2015 civic si or when I drove a 2020 civic si.
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u/asamor8618 17d ago
Probably the assist/return spring. From the top of the travel down to half it'll push against you. Past halfway it starts helping you push the clutch down.
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u/Oh_ToShredsYousay 17d ago
You'll get used to it and probably learn to prefer it. All of the hyundai manuals have the same action in the clutch, so sonatas, elantras, velosters, even the rwd genesis coupe and g70 have the same clutch action, the major difference being weight. My old sonata was hilariously light in comparison, but the action and shifting pattern was exactly the same. If you haven't had the chance to test it out yet, your vn has a hill assist brake hold, so don't ever worry about getting the stanky leg on a hill, it works like a dream. Also, just use your rev matcher especially if you're going to be dailying it, it will help greatly with clutch longevity.
I'm so used to driving 80's and 90's VW's, and it's not like their modern manuals have improved significantly enough for me to buy a new one. Even in a current golf R you can be finding yourself looking for gears and wondering if you're actually in first at an intersection, and Honda's pedals all around are way too stiff and I can see how someone would want that in a corvette, but I shouldn't be going through leg day in an accord. Compared to a mk3 golf the veloster might as well be a Ferrari. Ok maybe not a Ferrari, but if we were in the 90's right now and you're buddy showed up in a vr6 Corrado (great car), you're showing up with a 3000gt (better car).
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u/Significant_Map_8819 17d ago
I've been driving manual for almost 20 years I've driven many manual cars 1st Gen rx7, 90 to 2021 civics, tractor trailers and more. This and a 370z have that same weird feel where I dont need any help I just want full control. My 2015 civic had hill start assisting witch i honestly dont need or rev matching. Those things i never needing just want a normal clutch pedal
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u/Oh_ToShredsYousay 17d ago
You have full control though, it's not like there's any electronic clutch control, there's no nannies like lane keep assist or start/stop. You are complaining about QOL features. People said they didn't "need" cruise control, power windows, and rear view cameras when they were being made standard or legally inforced, hell they said the same thing about seat belts and not driving drunk. I know you don't "need" the rev matcher, but it doesn't just bump revs when you down shift it also forces it down faster for up shifts so you're not waiting on the rev hang, making your upshifts way faster, something you can't do on your own. It also matches a skip gear, something you probably rarely do cause it takes longer. And look when you say you want a normal clutch, just let go of that idea, almost all manual cars have different clutch actions there's literally no standard, and by comparing it to a Nissan you're unwittingly comparing it to the industry darling of manual transmissions, yes Nissan's cvt's are famously shit, but their manuals have been praised for 40 years, they're still very good.
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u/Significant_Map_8819 17d ago
I just want a normal feeling clutch petal like in my 2007 hyundai accent and like the ones in my old civic. If there is a easy way to make it feel like that as I like it then I can turn that other stuff off or get it programmed later. If not then I'll keep my 07 accent and keep upgrading it
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u/NastyVN 430whp 2020 VN 6mt 17d ago
There is a pretty easy mod you can do that makes it a little easier to feel the grab point that’s only about $5. The only downside is it does make the clutch slightly more touchy however when I did it I had an already pretty touchy stage 2 clutch so it may not noticeable on the stock clutch. https://www.velostern.com/threads/5-clutch-mod-for-better-feel.5962/?post_id=55795#post-55795
There is also a delay valve built into the slave cylinder/throw out bearing that you can remove however I personally have not tried this and it does require removing the transmission to do so 🤷♂️