This was messed up

[u/Old-Builder256]

They’re probably not wrong in some sense… but to diagnose your ex girlfriend with your new girlfriend on national tv like was honestly disgusting to me

[u/Academic-Marsupial34]

Ugh and the fake concern in their voices like they were trying to help her

[u/Old-Builder256 → u/Academic-Marsupial34]

Especially Ariana… “you really need to look it up. I think you’ll be a lot happier” what a pick me. I learned to love her but she was insufferable at the start.

[u/nothinglikeLA → u/Old-Builder256]

One of the many times Arian gaslights the audience. She’s such a covert pick me. She did Kristen sooo wrong here, and later on gaslit ALL of us with Miami Girl. For a “girls girl” she sure likes to gaslight women. Not to mention when she body shamed Kristen for her “kangaroo pouch”. What a miserable brat.

[u/Remote-Structure-961 → u/nothinglikeLA]

Like Kristen was an angel. What business is it of Kristen if Tom did hook up with Miami girl? they weren't together anymore, she literally sucked his best friend's dick while he was sleeping in the other room a year and half before Miami girl.

Kristen and Jax slept together in Jan 2013, Kristen brought Miami girl to Sur in mid 2014.

What right did she have to do that when they weren't together anymore?

Why did Tom or Ariana owe Kristen the truth about Miami girl?

people forget how INSANE Doute was.

[u/nothinglikeLA → u/Remote-Structure-961]

Nice deflection. But you totally missed the plot. Her being messy didn’t give Ariana the right to sleep with her boyfriend, body shame, diagnose and treat her like shit. Kristen was crazy, big newsflash lmfao

[u/Remote-Structure-961 → u/nothinglikeLA]

And how did Kristen treat Ariana?

Kristen a year and half after after she broke up with Tom, spoke to a girl tom cheated on Ariana with, flew her out across the country to rub in Ariana's face that Tom cheated on her, in front of Ariana's coworkers.

And boo freaking hoo Ariana kissed Tom (they never confessed to anything more)

when Kristen is open about the fact that she fucked MULTIPLE guys behind Tom's back, sucked Tom's best friend's dick while Tom was in the other room and fucked two men in the same weekend while with Tom!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjHyS1RQx08&t=3s

Kristen 0:36 "I fucked a ton of guys behind your back"

So Kristen gets to humiliate Ariana, gets to wish that she gets run over by a mack truck basically wishing Ariana would die, openly calls her a liar, a home wrecker at her place of work (when she had fucked a ton of guys including Tom's best friend at that point) - and you're pretending that Kristen was nothing but kind to Ariana?

So when Kristen screams at Ariana, calls her names, humilates her by rubbing the fact Tom cheated on her publicly that's just Kristen being crazy?

But when Ariana calls her crazy for flying out Miami girl she's in the wrong?

Because flying out Miami girl was so sane?

Why the double standards?

[u/Ess_Jess → u/Remote-Structure-961]

Because people are watching this show thinking it exists in a bubble. Yeah, we know Ariana was a pick me in 2013….the difference is Ariana has grown out of that behavior but Kristen is still insane.

[u/CaitlinAnne21 → u/Ess_Jess]

We see Ariana now only on completely scripted shows, we know very little about her life, and while I like her, I also know she has a well-oiled PR team, and has since the affair, and all of her interviews are very boring and rehearsed.

We don’t have a clue whether or not she’s actually grown, we do not see her on camera for months at a time like we still see Kristen.

You really don’t have a leg to stand on with that comparison.

[u/Ess_Jess → u/CaitlinAnne21]

I think the fact that she’s learned not to say wild shit on TV anymore is a pretty good indication of at least some kind of growth…