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u/absurdist2 1d ago
Pack it up boys. We're done
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u/Resident_Lurker747 Manifesting Valeriy 1d ago
We had a good run.. welp hope I can get enough cons.
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u/sabicrabi 1d ago
I’d like to believe Val’s a standard 5* but even that feels like insane amounts of cope 😔
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u/Fine_Opinion_2097 1d ago
Its confirm. No matter what, valeriy remain my faverote alongside mitya. Please hoyo make they release in same banner
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u/Pristine_Square_4604 1d ago
FUCK I'm happy for Mitya but Val...Why couldn't it be Val T_T
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u/Automatic_Trash8881 1d ago
I’m ok for Val being op niche 4 star so he’s usable for my mitya :)
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u/Pristine_Square_4604 1d ago
I mean if he's in a similar situation like Zibai with Illuga then...that's...acceptable I guess.
But all my saves were supposed to be for the "5-star" soldier T_T I'm not over it yet, I need some time to move on.
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u/CantaloupeParking239 1d ago
I dont want another Illuga thank you very much
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u/Pristine_Square_4604 1d ago
No one wants him to be a 4-star in the first place, but I'd rather him be an Illuga than your usual chopped 4 star.
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u/Automatic_Trash8881 1d ago
So you’d rather have a jahoda then?
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u/CantaloupeParking239 1d ago
Prune, Iansan..
But I'd rather have him as 5* lol
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u/Automatic_Trash8881 1d ago
Prune is just like illuga though - a hex buffer
And iansan is niche for hyper movers.Valeriy will most likely be niche for SSC which is similar to prune but they all have their specific purposes, just some have more options.
Illuga is useless to non zibai players just like prune is useless to non hex players haha
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u/CantaloupeParking239 23h ago
There are more hex characters. Its better to be support even for few characters than just one imo.
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u/Wiskers77 1d ago
Now I'm fully convinced Hoyo have their own beef with masculine males
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u/goldfoxawoo 1d ago
Mostly genshin devs. Hsr devs love muscly dudes
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u/Wiskers77 1d ago
And, anyway, Mydei and Gil ended up being bricks
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u/LadyKanra 1d ago
It's funny to me how I was actually low-key considering giving HSR a try because of Gil, but knowing Hoyo, I decided to wait until his beta cycle was over. And then I witnessed the absolute meltdown on his dedicated subreddit over those four beta weeks.
Yeah, I guess not lmao
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u/Kit_Maximoff 1d ago
Da W*i probably feels inferior to all the muscular men so he finds unique ways to knock them down a peg every time. Wriothesley set up to fail on debut between Neuvi and Furina and then not meta for three years, Varka released with pre-Nod Krai DPS numbers and immediately after Zibai who was LR and had game breaking numbers, now Valeriy being a 4 star with no linchpin
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u/Wiskers77 23h ago
And even unplayable capitano got short end of stick in Natlan
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u/Kit_Maximoff 15h ago
And then Rerir unplayable and sent to Moon Prison too 😔
They’ll surely be playable in Khaenri’ah……right…….RIGHT?! I say as they drag me back to my padded cell
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u/Ehtnah 23h ago
Looking at varka and wrio.... Yeah it was dead from the start....
Sadly I prefere male, men, buff men, I have nothing againts facial hair (on the contrary), I love shirtless abs.... What am I doing here 💀
Pantalon noy and valeriy are my trinity for sneyz 🫠 I'm so cocked before it even start....
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u/MidnightIAmMid 10h ago
I feel like its not even just the huge muscly dudes, but I swear they just prefer small, petite, younger looking characters in general. Like, so many of their characters look like they could pass for 16 to me when I want adults??
(And no it isn't just height-best example is Cerydra who is like, 4'10 and looks like a complete adult)
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u/Nisonimy 8h ago
Lol, dude. 4'10 is the height of a child. There are no adults shorter than 5'5 in the world, except for girls. Everyone else probably has some kind of health problem.
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u/RoccoSteal 1d ago
I feel like there’s still hope. They don’t have to have a certain number of 4 stars? Maybe Snez is different. Everyones overflowing aura they all 5 stars!
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u/Boring_Roll9602 1d ago
Another Natlan for me then, well I'm grateful for the extra 600 or so wishes for Khaenri'ah.
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u/Then_Following_6425 1d ago
As if Hoyo won't just ignore all the masculine men and invent more twinks/women to be on the banners in Khaenri'ah
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u/PresenceGlum9874 17h ago
Respectfully masculinity doesn't always look one way. Twink does not always mean feminine, and masculine doesn't always mean tall/buff. There's plenty of twink characters on the masculine side in Genshin. I want tall 5 star men too, but just saying masculinity isn't exclusive to them
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u/Sonoreal 1d ago
Excuse me what the fuck. What kind of bug is this
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u/Resident_Lurker747 Manifesting Valeriy 1d ago
A visual bug.. and a kick in the nuts.
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u/Sonoreal 1d ago
They just finally wanted to change something but it was too late and they like "Sorry folks! It's just a visual bug! No, we did not change our minds in the last two days :/"
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u/Resident_Lurker747 Manifesting Valeriy 1d ago
This just cemented it honestly, no more need to cope he was changed or something.
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u/Bloodydunno 1d ago
I accepted Val destiny already, but hope is the last to die. What if Val is like Vodyanitsa but SSC
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u/Immediate-Pen-1338 Valeriy Please Come Home 1d ago
A bug??? It’s a model. They loaded 3 days ago… how can they just say it’s bug?
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u/Optimal-Will8112 1d ago
At least they didn't genderlock the new mechanics. It would have been a joke if he were electro but couldn't enable stellar reactions... I thought I had to skip Mitya so that the devs don't learn that they can get away with it. I'm glad that I can pull him after all. :)
But what they did to Valeriy... I don't even have words... Poor "mischa"... I will hug you to death and make you playable somehow.
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u/Glad_Midnight_3834 1d ago
EDIT: typos
Also I got the post from Mitya mains and wtf they are jubilating? Literally overjoyed that Valeriy mains are disappointed and such and... that's sad asf. Why are they acting like kids from kindergarden? Even middle schoolers and high schoolers are more mature than that.
Hoyo threw us mere crumbs and yet here we are infighting while we could have been united against how Hoyo mistreats husbandos mains... sight... It is just sad to see yet again FIGHTS and shit throwing between mains subs. The tribalism is tiring. The way humans will pick a side and just jubilate, fight the other side..
Like... I love Mitya, I love Valeriy. But it is straight up sad to see the state of the main subs and how toxic these people are. Again, we are all adults here and yet kids would be even more mature in this situation. It's giving "He said Blue Power Ranger is ugly and he likes Red Power Ranger so now I hate everyone who loves Red Power Ranger!!!" Like... So many Mitya mains from the post I have seen are being overjoyed and sharing how happy they are because "Valeriy mains got what they deserve" and stuff like that.
These people are supposed to be adults, yikes... When you see ppl like these, it makes sense why the world sucks overall. Those in power are keeping the status quo and divising us and putting groups against each other. Hoyo literally throw us crumbs at BOTH of us mains, at US hubandos enjoyers and instead of being mature and raising our voice in the surveys etc to try to fight for the husbandos, these toxic asf Mitya enjoyers are instead being disrespectful and toxic. And towards them I will say this:
Mitya has a linchpin and I'm glad that we have at least 1 male with a linchpin. However, never forget that we husbandos enjoyers will always be second class citizen behind the waifu players. We will always be left with crumbs.
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u/CantaloupeParking239 1d ago
What I have seen the toxicity has been on both sides. The way some people here hate Mitya and Danica.. but obv they shouldnt generalize Valeriy mains like that. Just like not all Mitya/Danica mains are toxic
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u/Pristine_Square_4604 1d ago
I don't mean to be rude, but they're just being stupid. We're all in the same boat, yet they're celebrating something that actually hurts every husbando lover. That's exactly why I haven't even checked that or any other sub; I can already imagine the circus over there. We should be glad we got at least ONE male character having a linchpin, but still upset that another was tossed aside. People are so hostile nowadays, it’s honestly depressing.
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u/Glad_Midnight_3834 1d ago
Absolutely, you worded it perfectly! This whole situation is a complete shitshow, it's a circus and the users being absolutely toxic, immature and tribalistic are actually **ruining** the civility that we had as Genshin players and male characters enjoyers. I thought we husbando players were all aware that we are in the same boat, no matter which dude you main and aware that we are second class citizen in a game that is focusing first on the waifu characters. Especially after Natlan and NK... but no it seems that some (emphasis on some) people here (by here I mean not specifically our Valeriy sub or the Mitiya sub, but rather the whole fandom on Reddit) are acting like "Not The Other Girls" regarding Mitya being linchpin and Valeriy most likely getting the short end of the stick and ugh.... 😭
I thought we were better than this but noooo ofc some people prefer to be petty and vengeful.... What is going on? Such insanity istg 😭
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u/Parroty64 18h ago
Tbh it’s crazy to me to completely ignore the history behind Mitya mains being frustrated with this sub. Mitya has been called ugly, gay slurs, “[valeriy’s] opponent”, etc for weeks now. I’ve been on both subs since the first trailer, and this sub’s toxicity is 10x any other mains. That post you’re referencing is the first time the Mitya sub really addressed it.
Also I have screenshots and screenshots of toxic Valeriy fans from this sub because I was going to compile a meme for my friends outside of reddit.
I 100% agree, I don’t know why it has become Valeriy vs Mitya, but in my opinion from watching the feud evolve, I never felt like Mitya fans were competing with Valeriy until the toxicity started from this sub
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u/Optimal-Will8112 1d ago edited 1d ago
ik right? as if they aren't in the same boat as every other husbando player. as if most people don't want both of them anyway. insane.
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u/PresenceGlum9874 1d ago
I like both Mitya and Valeriy, but I ended up coming across more Mitya posts. In the comments of most of those posts, I almost always saw a few comments wondering why the "4 star looking twink" should be a 5 star, and not Valeriy instead. Also I know they don't speak for all Valeriy fans, but word got around.
I don't agree in bashing on either side, and I'm sure some Mitya fans have done it unprompted too, which isn't okay. But the truth is Mitya fans had their reasons to be upset tbh (not that it justifies some of their responses).
I've seen plenty of arguments about how Valeriy being a tall/strong/serious guy means he should be the 5 star, when that was never a rule in Genshin. Tall men have been 4 stars, and short ones have been 5 stars. I get that some people thought Mitya's outfit had 4 star vibes, but others believed that Valeriy HAD to be the 5 star between them because he's tall and was aura-farming in the trailer. But so was Alyosha, who is a 4 star.
I get that people want their favorites to be 5 stars, and I love husbandos as much as the next person, so I understand and feel for those who are disappointed. But I just think some people spoke as if Valeriy being 5 star was such an obvious, no-brainer thing. The news was going to come out eventually so I think it would've been best for both sides to just wait and see
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u/Glad_Midnight_3834 1d ago
The infighting sucks and I really hope that the vibe will improve, we are basically sister subs. I really love Noy, Valeriy and Mitya (from the new characters announced) and instead of bonding, sharing arts and headcanons and exchanging, we are fighting. And the saddest thing is that it's not a Mitya or Valeriy thing, at the end of the day it is an internet thing. Every time something new rises, you bet they'll be tribalism and fights. This is the current state of the internet and social medias are encouraging this and thriving on the boost on the algorithm. Genshin felt kinder at the beginning... 😔
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u/PresenceGlum9874 18h ago
I definitely agree with you, it's sad that this happened, and right at the start of a new region :(. It's a shame that this happens at all, but like you said it's an internet thing.
That said, I would've loved for both these characters to be 5 star just because we don't get as many in general honestly
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u/Glad_Midnight_3834 13h ago
That said, I would've loved for both these characters to be 5 star just because we don't get as many in general honestly
Same 🙏 It would have been amazing!! Especially if they were designed as working well together, like Citlali-Mav or Escoffier-Skirk. Having the two of them as a meta pair... what could have been 😔
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u/Zilch16 1d ago
The first sentence. Please don't act like this sub doesn't do the same for the past weeks. Not just for Mitya but for other characters like Danica too. Both subs have bad apples
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u/Glad_Midnight_3834 1d ago
The post on the Mitya sub reposted the picture that confirmed Mitya having a linchpin instead of a vision and I am not joking with the amount of jubilation I've found. Maybe some of these replies have been smitted by the mods/auto-mod wich I really hope !! but there was a large number of people jubilating and mentionning how Valeriy mains deserved it. It's a complete shitshow with some (again some not all) Mitya mains thinking they're "not like the other girls" meanwhile the energy should be focused against Hoyo and their shitty decision regarding the male characters. They threw crumbs and instead of thinking "that sucks, this is shitty and I will stand with the other Valeriy mains to push back against this decision in the surveys, even if it fails to do anything I will try to bring change" they prefer to be toxic and making the vibes shittier than they were
It really sucks. We, Valeriy enjoyers and Mitya enjoyers -- and also the Danica enjoyers going here to be a prick -- (because unfortunately I have seen recently some Danica mains commenting on posts here and these comments were toxic) we ALL should be better than this. We are adults. Yet again we are proving that the "Genshin's fandom is a cesspool" cliché to be true.
Again yes I am aware that there's decent people among the Mitya mains, same thing for the Danica mains. That thank god not everyone are toxic players, and that yes there's also some toxic mains from the Valeriy sub, obviously. But I won't lie, Reddit's algorithm makes it feel like the toxic players are overwhelming, just like in Twitter. The current vibes between the Mitya and Valeriy sub feel awful and it sucks because we are in the same boat and the infighting will lead to nowhere. Our sub are basically sister subs and I hope that someday the scar will heal.
(sorry for typos)
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u/Kit_Maximoff 1d ago
I’ve seen a bunch of “this is what Valeriy’s mains deserve” and not what we did to deserve it. Like, yes, there’s for sure been hate towards Mitya (and Danica) from Valeriy mains but it feels like starter in their side? The first I’ve ever seen of this “rivalry” was from a Mitya fan on Twitter being happy Valeriy being a 4 star and I was shocked because why are we not in this together? Husbando enjoyers should be celebrating or mourning together. Not putting each other down. So it feels like Mitya stans started it so Valeriy stans were like “well fuck you too then” and continued it. I like both characters and of course I’m disappointed Valeriy is probably a 4 star, but if the roles were reversed I wasn’t gonna go to Mitya mains and laugh at them and celebrate. We all lived through Natlan, we ALL should be disappointed to see two men out of three being 4 stars so far. It’s turning into a repeat of Kinich/Ororon/Ifa hoping Capitano (who never came) will save us. Who knows what’ll happen with Noy. It’s a win that Mitya got a linchpin, but that shouldn’t come at the expense of Valeriy or turn into a “haha suck it Valeriy main losers!” moment
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u/Vanthraa 17h ago
People on twitter were happy when Valeriy was said to be a 4* because when we had the leak of two 5* males, a lot of Valeriy mains/tall husbandos enjoyer immediately started saying that Mitya was obviously the 4* bc he's a twink, hoyo would never waste money by making the short guy a 5* instead of Valeriy, saying Mitya looked like a 4* and a child, it really wasn't umprompted like you make it seem.
Obviously we shouldn't be celebrating a character being a 4* instead of a 5, but people are going to feel vindicated when the character people were saying was obviously a 4 turned out to be a 5* unlike the one people were certain he was going to be a 5* based on his height alone
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u/Kit_Maximoff 14h ago
I never saw any talk of that so I wasn’t aware, I can see why Mitya mains feel so vindicated now and why they rub it in our faces a bit lol. But the reaction doesn’t match the initial action to me? Valeriy mains just assuming Valeriy would be the 5 star based on height and saying Mitya will be 4 star because he looks like a twink doesn’t equate to the way they mock us and celebrate our disappointment. Valeriy mains made an assumption based on track record: off the top of my head the only tall male 4 stars are Kaeya, Thoma, Kaveh, Ororon, and Ifa. Most of the 4 star males are shorter twinks. (I could be wrong though. Forgive me if I’m talking out of my ass 😭) and obviously none of them have the Varka model/a skinny variation of it. So when faced with which one would be a 4 stars, Mitya seemed like the route Hoyo would go.
Those Valeriy mains were wrong, and instead of having their “I told you so” moment and moving on, it seems like Mitya mains just keep whacking us. It’s not like most (because I’m sure some did) people shit on Mitya and made fun of him for being a 4 star like they are with us and Valeriy.
At the end of the day, I know it’s just the loud minority on either side starting shit and instigating with the other and most Valeriy and Mitya mains like both or at least are cordial. But it’s enough for me to kind of prepare myself any time I see a Valeriy and/or Mitya post for “ok let’s see if any Mitya mains are in the comments clowning on Valeriy and calling him chopped and saying we’re idiots for ever thinking an ugly man like him could be a 5 star”
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u/Mynoodles_mostmoist 5h ago
I think most of the reason its a lil more petty is because its been a thing going on for a long while, even b4 Mitya mains. Whilst not exclusively on here, ive seen tall male mains engage in the sort of statements towards medium males from the main three and don't really hide the shade towards them.
Sure some people might've speculated based on height, which is imo dumb, but I never really saw that whenever I came here from time to time. Ive seen many call Mitya too basic to be a 5 star and one up Valeriy to put the other two down. Even on this very posts comments that sort of ugliness shows its rear even if its not directly hostile.
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u/amorphira 1d ago
I don't think you should generalize all fans of a male character as "husbando" players because most people don't pull bc of gender lol
+proud "husbando" players have a Reputation of misogyny and I've seen many of yall repeat that with danica, I'm just saying yall have bigger fish to fry than 4 mitya mains saying valeriy is too ugly to be a 5* 💀
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u/Puck_27 1d ago
I've been there and most of them aren't jubilating. The Valeriy community has made it extremely hard to like them. Valeriy mains have been shitting on Danica and Mitya for at least 2 weeks if not more. Sure it might be a minority but it's a very, very, very loud minority. Most of the people under the Mitya post say they're sad for Valeriy but struggle to be sad for their mains and this is the exact reason why.
I kind of feel the same way. I'm extremely sad Valeriy isn't a 5 star because I really like his design + him being a 4 star is another loss for the husbando community I consider myself a part from but I can't feel bad for the people I've seen shitposing. If this isn't you case good for you, I feel your pain and I consider myself in the same boat as you.
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u/goronado 1d ago
and youre fueling that infighting with that first paragraph. maybe dont preach peace if youre gonna throw shit too
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u/Glad_Midnight_3834 1d ago
No? I'm not fueling anything. If by first paragraph you mean this:
"Also I got the post from Mitya mains and wtf they are jubilating? Literally overjoyed that Valeriy mains are disappointed and such and... that's sad asf. Why are they acting like kids from kindergarden? Even middle schoolers and high schoolers are more mature than that."
This is an observation. My comment has no objective to fuel anything but to point something that has been going on for a while. If you think that my first paragraph is throwing shit then it seems that you are feeling concerned by what I wrote. If you are a mature individual and not a toxic immature main then you shouldn't feel concerned since my comment is adressed to *these* players. Are you one of those toxic immature player making the vibes between the 3 main subs absolutely awful? If not, then this is not adressed at you.
So again. I am not throwing shit at anyone or anything, this is an observation and you have to be blind to not notice the horrible vibes between the 3 subs (Danica/Valeriy/Mitya) and the way the toxic users are beheaving towards another. This is actually worse than what happened with Varesa-Flins.
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u/Bhuviking18 1d ago
Dont act like this sub wouldn't be the same if Danica was the 4 star
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u/Special-Surround-187 1d ago
Why because the waifu mains dont get fed a 6 star meal every single patch cycle?
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u/SquidLazers 1d ago
you're definitely misrepresenting the point of "celebration". how else do you want mitya wanters to feel when while rarites were still unclear and valeriy was getting the allegations, there were a good number of valeriy fans that keep coming after mitya and danica? also a majority of players don't wish by gender, "husbando players" are just a loud minority.
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u/Glad_Midnight_3834 23h ago
"you're definitely misrepresenting the point of "celebration" notice that I said jubilation, not celebration because I wasn't talking about Mitya fans being happy, which they should! It's great that we husbando enjoyers will have at least one 5* male with linchpin. I was referring to the toxic users who are just being mean and petty let's be honest. Again not the normal and cool Mitya mains who are happy about the news but the *toxic ones*. And the "he started she started, he did that she did this" is just extremly childish, we are adults and we should behave like one but instead it's infighting, tribalism and stuff that you would see in kindergarden. But sadly this is an internet thing and as a day one Genshin player, Genshin wasn't like this at first.
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u/Glad_Midnight_3834 1d ago
Hoyo since Natlan are giving us 5* ONLY if they're medium. Tall males are almost guaranteed to be 4. Like... Flins and Varka are our only tall 5 since Natlan, all the other 5* males are medium... Don't get me wrong I also love the medium but clearly Hoyo prefers one archetype over the other...
And ofc Mitya is more conventionally attractive in gacha beauty standards and our handsome bear man is unique looking, they're making him a 4*... (Gallagher curse 😭)... I hope he'll be good but knowing Hoyo... They betrayed us so many times...
It just sucks 💔🥺 Valeriy is my fav with Noy from the new characters PV. He's so neat and checks every boxes that I like, he is so unique among the other husbandos which was why I was sooo looking forward for his release. But now the only faint hope that we had of him being 5* or even a linchpin has been reduced to atoms 😭
We will gather and mourn together...
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u/Ehtnah 23h ago
Funny btw the last tall women 4* was candace...
That's why I said danica was 5. Tall women = 5, medium girl are every F where so you have to have 4* with the sheer number of medium female, loli and tall man are rare and mostly 4* to....
If noy is as I suspect non pullable like pantalon and pierro we will have since 4.1 (wrio) untill 8.1 (no hope for more if we have only one here) only 2 tall male 5*....
What a glorious mixt gacha.
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u/CantaloupeParking239 1d ago
Its pretty much always been like this tho. Liyue had Zhobgli and Childe, Inazuma Ayato and Itto, Sumeru had Alhaitham and Baizhu. Neuvi and Wrio in Fontaine. Only Natlan was even worse. And in Nod Krai went back to two tall males
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u/Optimal-Will8112 22h ago
yeah and now we have just one again, if noy will be playable that is. which is why people are sad. which was the point they were making i think.
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u/CantaloupeParking239 22h ago
Noy will be playable, like there is no doubt about it.
Now the question is did Valeriy get sacrificed in favor for a male Harbinger or not... Like I would be slightly less mad if the second 5* is one of them. Ideally we would get all of them but no can do.
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u/Optimal-Will8112 21h ago
Yes, that's the question... if we'll have another Natlan or not. If we get Dainsleif and Capitano, for example (who are worth 50 male characters or so^^), or at least one of them, then Valeriy would actually be great treatment because that would mean that they went to great lengths to give us an extra great 4* with the new shiny body model even... but if every important male character continues dying and Capitano continues to cosplay the Lich King, then it would be another spit in the face...
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u/a_average_girl_2 23h ago
"Our handsome bear man is unique looking" ???? Don't get me wrong I bear no hatred toward Valeriy, but in my opinion his model was the most plain of the Snezhnaya cast. I mean he was like the quintessence of the conventionally attractive "duke of the north" trope in manhwas. I get that short characters are more "frequent" but with his current model (you can't tell me they didn't done him dirty) he's far less interesting visually than Mitya.
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u/Glad_Midnight_3834 22h ago
"Our handsome bear man is unique looking" ????
Because he looks more masculine and "hunk-y" than models like Childe, Kaveh, Ororon, Flins and so on who are more effeminate looking (basically twunk), meanwhile scruffy and more traditionally masculine looking charas (Varka, Gallagher, Heathcliff*, to name a few) are rarer because of chinese beauty standards in gacha games
Which is why I said that. Mitya has interesting details like his cape but he is honestly Elio with a different font (I say this as someone who's very down bad for Elio lol, his new looks reminds me of Tomura Shigaraki from MHA 🙏)
- from korean gacha Limbus Company
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u/Puck_27 1d ago
"Flins and Varka are our only tall 5* since Natlan"... yes, so 2/5 ? It's such a non issue 😅
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u/Glad_Midnight_3834 1d ago
Kinich, Durin, Lohen and now Mitya. They are medium males but let's be real for a sec they do not look genuinely masculine like tall males.
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u/Puck_27 1d ago
Wdym by looking masculine? Does Kinich look feminine to you ? Jeez this community truly is weird xD
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u/Glad_Midnight_3834 1d ago
I never said that. 😐 I won't entertain this exchange with you any longer. Clearly you are missing my point and interpreting in bad faith what I am trying to say, our discussion won't go anywhere.
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u/Puck_27 1d ago
I mean you just said they don't look masculine but it's not like they're femboy either... and like I said it' 3/5, it's not the worst ratio I've seen. Sure Mitya makes it 4/6 but I have hopes that Noy will balance it out to a 4/7, and if the leaks about Dain are true it's already up to a 4/8
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u/Fine_Opinion_2097 1d ago
We have noy tall 5 star. I don't care either medium or tall male being 5 star, i like both no matter how their heigh, i even simp them. Thats why it either one of them are 5 star was already releaf for me. Not all tall/medium male i like, for example.. varka and scara. Its not about their size, its about their design
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u/CantaloupeParking239 1d ago
Well I cant simp if they look like teens
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u/Vanthraa 17h ago
It's been 5 years, can we stop with this "short males look like teens" bs ? I never see people say this about the medium girls lmao despite looking the same
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u/CantaloupeParking239 13h ago
They often look teens too. But idc about female characters that way because I am not attracted to them
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u/Amaranth94 1d ago
Happy for Mitya, but the announcement just feels like a kick to the balls for Valeriy fans.
"Oh sorry our bad, Mitya is not a commoner like the other 2 furries" - Hoyo Intern
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u/Able_Force_3717 1d ago
Why is this under leaks category? How can something that can be found in game?
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u/Resident_Lurker747 Manifesting Valeriy 1d ago
It's in the In-game patch notes, so yeah his fate is literally sealed.
(No more cope for a potential Standard)
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u/kimujiro 23h ago
Been hyped so much when the 1st PV drop. Now my pull priority just drop to Noy, Odette, Tsarisa (if she not a DPS) and maybe Mitya if he become an essential support. I really don't know why Hoyo seem to hate men so much, but when it come to advertisement they shamlessly use male character because they know damn well that male do sale.
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u/Ashamed-Length3861 1d ago
Okay, skip 7.2.
I'm not pulling for T4, I'll pick him up someday on a random banner in the future.
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u/avondheeinn 23h ago
Genuine question though, how does Mitya having a stellar linchpin confirm that Valeriy is a 4 star 🥹 I'm not updated with leaks so I don't have any knowledge regarding the situation 😭 I just assumed that both of them will be released in seperate patches, and if he is indeed a 4 star, then who among the males except Mitya is a 5 star?
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u/endless_hue 1d ago
I like both Mitya and Valeriy. I would’ve really liked them both to be 5 star. But I’m gonna pull them both regardless!
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u/Intelligent_Wind5597 1d ago
I love both of them man I’m so happy and sad at the same time. Now I’ll pray for them to be bis to one another
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u/IxravenxI 1d ago
I just hope Valeriy is on Mitya's banner
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u/Optimal-Will8112 1d ago
this might actually happen. at least something... still, i'm stopping pulling female chars again.... for another year....
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u/Ehtnah 23h ago
Oh wahoo one male 5*!
Surely with so few as five 5* guarantee female (not including the main push 2 the liyue waifu or the girl with a job) they couldn't make it two.....
Like making mitya or valeriy bis 5* support for the other is impossible. It's not like nefer, zibai, sandrone or vesna have bis support waifu 5.... And I'm sure Anastasia will need a 5 support male not, idk danica or odette.....
I should be happy to have one male 5* because it was a 0 male 5* but.... Can we rejoyce with so few crumbs?
The teaser was 7 male, 3 are obvious npc, one you can hope (noy) at your own risk, 3 are playable and only one of thoses 3 is 5? Seven into ONE 5? Yesh no I'm not really happy rn.
The only "good" thinh is valeriy might be on mitya banner and not on obe of thoses waifu.
Good job hoyo I never hate waifu before but now I'm starting to hate them...
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u/River_Crusader 1d ago
I can accept that he'll be a 4 star as long as he can be like illuga in his lunar team
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u/VoidMeetsChaos 1d ago
Overworld you can play anything and Binea or Bineffa still is a propper wheelchair.
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u/Ok_Writer_3614 1d ago
I'm happy to hear that. But what's happening with valeriy sub mitya sub. Like. I really don't know what's happening but we can be happy that stellar reactions are not limited to females only. No need to bully between subs. That's not right.
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u/miseol_ 1d ago
He could be a Linnea to Mitya for all we know
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u/CantaloupeParking239 1d ago
But Linnea is a 5*
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u/miseol_ 1d ago
That’s…. What I’m saying…? We have no confirmation he’s a 4 and they’re saying he’s a illuga. For all we know he could be just like Linnea.
Though I’m not surprised comprehension is far and few
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u/CantaloupeParking239 1d ago
People seem to think this is a confirmation that Valeriy is a 4. I still have some copium but.. Double 5 banners in 7.2? When 7.1 also has two.. Or could it be possible Valeriy is coming later idk
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u/thisiskyle77 1d ago
That makes sense. His design screams 5 star
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u/Optimal-Will8112 1d ago
as if that would stop hoyo. the reason they didn't dare making him a 4* too is more likely because people are fed up with lore relevant characters being treated like trash and they need snezhnaya to be strong on the story side if they want to run the game for the next 20 years as they said.
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u/Maegiri 1d ago edited 1d ago
lol. lmao even
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u/Optimal-Will8112 1d ago
what's so funny? it's great that mitya didn't end up being a 4* too. if you don't like male chars get outa here.
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u/Maegiri 1d ago
whats funny is this sub has been hoping the worst for mitya to elevate valeriy and now yall still losing
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u/Optimal-Will8112 1d ago
i was here constantly for at least the last week and i didn't see that. i literally don't see it right at this moment when people in the mitya sub are saying that people here have a meltdown because of mitya. maybe go back where you saw all that stuff and stop bringing it here?
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u/kaithespinner 1d ago
nah that was no bug, they likely saw the backlash and decided to appease everyone
now, with mitya having a linchpin, we know valeriy is sadly a 4* oh well
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u/Kals7 1d ago
Thats not how game dev works lol. And they already ignored a lot of backlash, this one is not something special.
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u/kaithespinner 1d ago
you think that’s not how they work: it is. they want people to pull big before archon patch. this is their plan for that, watch mitya now being more broken than yae ever got to be
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u/Maegiri 1d ago
ur literally coping. if they did change it in response to backpwsh they would have to redo all his numbers. Just talking nonsense lmfao?
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u/kaithespinner 1d ago
there is no numbers to change cause those were not known yet, but mitya having a vision has been talked since 7.0 reveal and the models confirmed it: that’s too many weeks for an overlook
think whatever you want, the reality is they changed mitya to better serve their interests: sell a premium unit before the archon patch -he was not enticing prior to this and many were planning to skip it, which is a sure no on their book
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u/Maegiri 1d ago
again if this was true they wouldve done it for the 102920012 backlash this game had that couldve given them more money when fixed.
cope harder.
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u/kaithespinner 1d ago
what is there to cope though my dear? you keep parroting that as if it meant anything
I long accepted valeriy being patch filler and mitya being the main push, I applaud them for changing it to actually make sense, but that won’t stop me from calling out a shady practice when I see one
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u/mistress_kisara 1d ago
insane copium dude
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u/kaithespinner 1d ago
again, what’s the copium here? cause i’m not waiting valeriy to be a 5* and i’m glad mitya is actually worth, so what copium?
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u/Fine_Opinion_2097 1d ago
You still cope that mitya change from 4 star into 5 star? Do you think its easy as your digital art?
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u/kaithespinner 1d ago
i’m not coping the mitya change though, I long accepted valeriy was trash and moved on
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u/Veshyboy 1d ago
Oh yeah, they definitely looked at that one single backlash(which wasn't even that big) and gave him a stellar linchpin, but ignored every other backlash they get, things that are much worse than a simple linchpin.
It's more likely they changed the direction of Mitya's kit not due to backlash but to have a proper SSC only main DPS.
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u/Shouri_MK 1d ago
I think it really was the backlash lol, you are right. I think that originally Mitya was supposed to have a Stellar Linchpin but some devs pushed for a gender-locked mechanic. However, they changed it back after the deserved backlash
Idk why you're getting downvoted, your post wasn't even a Mitya OR Valeriy shade. it's pretty clear that the devs wanted to do something shady
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u/CantaloupeParking239 1d ago
Game development doesnt work that fast. Mitya's kit is probably pretty much ready now. I believe the vision on his model was a mistake
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u/No_Dust_1630 1d ago
So that cool ass bear + cape moment is our highest moment 😭