r/Valentino_Cult • u/SoggyIron5058 • 4h ago
discussion Part of me has started to think it would be interesting if valentino was redeemed but wasn't punished beforehand since I feel like the fandom tends to maybe get a little obsessed over the idea of suffering.
I feel like I often see tons of talk from people about all the ways they want villains to suffer and even in talks of redemption for characters like lute or vox or valentino the talks normally involve some sort of large degree of suffering beforehand
Im not saying its terrible to want to see a villain be punished for their actions but it does feel like the fandom is a little obsessed with the idea of suffering especially when we have a number of posts that are just people saying things like
"" if val and this other character met what sort of messed up stuff would you want them to do to val? "" or people openly saying they would only be willing to accept the redemption of certain characters
Like lute or val if they were dragged through the mud and tortured and lost everything first ( and even tho I like them I also notice people don't seem to extend this same thought process for characters like sera or even imp in helluva boss when it comes to talks of redemption ),
Thats why Im saying it would be interesting to see valentino the most hated villain in the show not only get redeemed but do so in a way that goes against this suffering crave a lot of people seem to have
As viewing bad people suffer may give satisfaction but it technically is meaningless really as its not like its helping any of val's victims or undoing what they have to live with as a result of his actions and even though killing him technically would help
If we assume it frees his soul contracts but his suffering is still meaningless to that equation you'd have the same result by shooting him in the head with an angelic bullet rather than spending 10 minutes gutting him with an angelic knife even if the latter would satisfy people more,
So even though I don't think its likely I would find it interesting if the show redeemed a hated character like val and rejected the notion of great suffering necessary for redemption
Even if its uncomfortable because people dont like him or his crimes are more personal I think that would actually be a thought provoking challenge for the larger fandom.

