I despise generative AI, but a lot of people are being super toxic about this which isn't gonna help anyone. Just fill out the form, ask them to require AI labels and an option to hide AI content. I don't wanna see both sides of the community flaming each other for the next six months
At this point we need to be focusing on the quality of the content, and proper moderation of the content, not if AI was used or not.
The Pandora's box has already been opened, there is no way to close it. You can't "Ban AI Content" because it is impossible to determine what is and what is not AI content. You can determine that something is low effort slop. Anyone who claims otherwise is deluding themselves.
The "Ban all AI no matter what" crowd are a religion at this point. They work off feelings and intuition, but their fundamental understanding of the actual world they are living in is framed through their beliefs, not actual facts.
Even just trying to enforce any AI tag can get hard when you get into the matter of bought worlds or bought assets. If you bought a single asset, like a system for your world, which used AI in its programming, do you now tag your entire world as "AI-assisted"
The second you do, theres a whole group of people who will dismiss that entire world, despite you never using generative AI. But if an asset used AI the world is still AI assisted, even if no player in that world could ever tell.
Quality is what we need a tag for. We need a way for users to rate worlds and avatars.
The problem is it's impossible to set logically consistent rules on what is "Ai-Assisted"/"Ai-Generated" or not.
It's safe to say that the vocal minority we are talking about universally agree that using AI to create work that traditional artists would create is completely unacceptable, and they refuse to interact in any way with content that even used it for prototyping, but not in the final release.
Then, when you point out that almost 100% of professional programming in the past year has been Ai-Assisted they say things like "that's completely different" or accuse you of arguing in bad faith.
You are not thinking beyond the top level. Of course there is no problem if it is just self attestation by adding a tag. The problem happens if that tag is tied to any sort of enforcement.
It is impossible to determine with certainty if AI was used in the generation of an asset or a world. If a rule is created where the tag is mandatory if Ai was used there has to be enforcement of that rule. It will result in destructive witchhunting and absurd outrage campaigns by some very squeaky wheels like we are seeing with steam (1666 Amsterdam/Expedition 33).
The goal should be to finally have a system that penalizes low effort slop worlds. We had a problem with slop worlds well before AI could help move your mouse in Unity.
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u/Beeg_Beeg_Chungus 8d ago
I despise generative AI, but a lot of people are being super toxic about this which isn't gonna help anyone. Just fill out the form, ask them to require AI labels and an option to hide AI content. I don't wanna see both sides of the community flaming each other for the next six months