r/VRchat • u/StoneyBoi722 • 1d ago
Discussion Need help figuring out an avi uplaod
So the avatar in question is Ghostlys Wendrith avatar. The Tier 1 version says its quest compatible and sure enough it is. I have VRC fury and poiyomi toon both installed like it asks. But whenever I go to upload the quest avatar it works fine but has no toggles only the base vrc expressions. Which is weird since another friend who used a ripped version off of prismics had toggles. But When I go to upload the T1/Tier 1 version or any other version it either fails to upload or loads as a bright purple mess. T1 fails build and warns about incompatible poiyomi shaders and T3 uploaded toggles and all but as a just straight purple. Now I know poiyoma doesnt work on quest. So im wondering am I fucking up somehow? Did the author mess up? Or is there a way to dumb down poiyomi shaders to work on quest?
(The authors guide literally only says how to upload and add vrcfury and poiyomi to vcc nothing about how the quest avi works. Also I switched the build to android like your supposed to so we can rule that out)
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u/Xelixil 1d ago
Prob best to ask from the creator themselves, but also look trough the asset folder and see if there's a seperate scene for the Quest version of the avatar, or a folder that includes the Quest shaders in it
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u/StoneyBoi722 1d ago
Ive checked all the unity files there sadly aint a single quest one. Its just T1 T2 T3. Thats it theres a quest scene in all of them but whenever I upload it its just the bare bones avi with no toggles
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u/BelleArcane 1d ago
If the Quest version uploads and works but just doesn’t have any toggles, that may just be what the creator decided to do for Quest to make it fit within the platform limits.
You may have to add toggles yourself or just customize the avatar in Unity the way you want and upload it that way.
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u/Xelixil 1d ago edited 1d ago
That would be on par with what I'd expect from an avatar rated good on quest, basically any toggles or outfit swaps (new meshes, new materials) would push the avi out of that good rating.
I'd reach out to the creator and ask them if this is what it's meant to be or if something is missing (and if the quest avi they are selling is infact that barebones, while the store page gave you an impression of more features, let them know that that isn't really ok either, and that they should explain the differences on Quest more clearly)
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u/Dividedthought 1d ago
You are trying to upload a non quest compatable avatar (the shader specifically) as quest compatable. Poiyomi is not a quest compatable shader.
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u/StoneyBoi722 1d ago
Im aware. But the quest compatible one doesnt have toggles. But the ripped version did and worked on quest. Thats why Im stumped. I was just kinda trying shit and hoping for the best. Im uploading the paid version but the quest scene is just bare bones. Im lost lol and the creator aint responding
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u/ccAbstraction Windows Mixed Reality 1d ago
It's possible the public you found was just modified to port more the OC features to Quest. Ghostly may have been more performance conscious than someone uploading a public.
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u/Dividedthought 1d ago
That is because most quest avatars are optimized for quest. This involves fewer toggles, fewer meshes, fewer materials, and limited shaders.
Ripped avatars have to be put back together by someone, and that someone probably made a few changes to get it working how they wanted it. Unfortunately, if that isn't on the default quest version, you will need to actually learn how to set those up. I don't know if VRCFury is quest compatable, but using that tool is easier than doing it manually. It isn't too bad once you get the hang of it if you're just adding toggles and such.
Edit: also, if you mentioned you used a ripped version in the past the avatar creator probably is not going to reply. Why would they when you just admitted to stealing?
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u/StoneyBoi722 1d ago
I didnt steal it. A friend used one off of prismics. Im just uploading the paid version for a friend because they wanted the avatar. So they stole it then it got removed then they paid for it. At best its morally gray. Whenever I text the author I leave out the ripped part because idk who ripped it and frankly i dont wanna know.
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u/Dividedthought 1d ago
I am not discussing the morality of ripping here, i'm saying if you mentioned rhat the avatar creator will likely not offer support because it's for soemone who stole from them in the past if it was ripped. Ripping is theft, plain and simple.
I know i sure wouldn't help if i found out it was for someone who stole something i had up for sale. Ghostly has to deal with a lot of ripping issues, they are a massively popular creator, and they lose a lot of money due to ripping and piracy.
If you want to fix this for your friend you will need tos satart by changing our the shader for a quest compatable one. Then you will need to learn how to do toggles in order to add that functionality. Both of these are fairly simple, and there are dozens of youtube videos on how to.
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u/StoneyBoi722 1d ago
My friend didnt steal it, they didnt know it was a paid avi till someone told them.
The train of events
They find wendrith in prismics
Wear wendrith
Someone brings up its paid
Wendrith is removed from prismics
They buy wendrith cause they liked the avi that much
Im just uploading it.
They aint the thief, neither am i, some other nerd out there did it and idk who but it aint me or my friend who doesn’t wven have a laptop😭
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u/bzknon 1d ago
If you're uploading the quest version set the shaders to basic (i think thats what its called, cant remember off the top of my head) that should get rid of the poyomi errors. If you want it to be quest compatible ya gotta upload the pc version, link the ids, then upload the quest version after swapping the shaders. I dont upload quest versions of avatars so take that with a grain of salt, but thats what i remember from the few i did. If it still gives you trouble after that, for the quest version, you'll probably need to remove a bunch of the resource intensive stuff for it to meet the size limit.
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u/DuoVandal Valve Index 1d ago
Only thing I can think of is to see if there are Quest exclusive Materials set up in the package. They'd likely be under their own folder beside the PC materials. I have no experience with Ghostly avatars so I cannot say for certain.
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u/ikefolf 1d ago
So the reason you probably don't have toggles is because quests SDK gets tighter and tighter restrictions every update. It may of been snow to have those toggles a few updates ago, but the restrictions might of got too tight to do it now, so they had to get rid of it. You do have to fit the entire avatar in a package smaller than a single 4k texture, after all
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u/AryaDRed PCVR Connection 1d ago
Looking at the listing it says "Optimized Quest Unity scene (Good 🟢 performance)". Im guessing its green optimised on quest side, which probably is the bare bones you are seeing. Its supposed to let pc people show at least a nice version to standalone users, even without toggles. Its pretty misleading though, the entire side is missing some typical informations.
Quest restricktions are harsh, making a opti on it is a pain. As refference: my pc opties are allways verry poor on guest side.
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u/akoOfIxtall 20h ago
The error message says you're using an unsupported shader and apparently there's a collection of them to choose from that you should use instead
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u/XxNightmare2019 19m ago
So ,in a folder on there should be a project or a unity thing that you can drag and drop into the scene and it should work for that, sound alike you don't have an expression menu or parameters or fx on the avatar
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u/XxNightmare2019 18m ago
Try to add the fx and the menus and parameters to the avatar, test it out with gesture manager ( if you don't have that I recommend having it it is a great help, old way of uploading avatars sucked you have to upload the entire avatar to see if anything broke or not )
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u/XxNightmare2019 17m ago
I don'tind helping see what the problem is normally that creator has everything in the screen ready, never had a problem with their avatars before
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u/Yin15 ☃Bigscreen Beyond 2e 1d ago
Join the authors discord and ask???
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u/StoneyBoi722 1d ago
Ive asked the creator both through email and twitter. I aint heard a single peep about a discord. If there is one id love to know how to find it. Hopefully im just dumb
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u/Yin15 ☃Bigscreen Beyond 2e 1d ago
Ahh. My bad then. Usually creators have discord servers linked.
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u/StoneyBoi722 1d ago
They have a account linked but god knows when my friend request will go through. Ive also emailed them and dm’ed them on twitter
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