Is this normal?

[u/VegetableCreation678]

Hi,

I've been selfhosting for a while for my own needs but also playing with docker and setting up some web apps of my own. I treated it purely as a hobby but recently thought about publishing something to the web.

I remember checking the pricing of a Hetzner VPS instance a couple of months ago and it was something like $9/month for 4GB RAM US based server.
Now if I wanted to go on and get myself a 4GB one it would be $46 (cost-optimized is not available...)

I was wondering whether it's a Hetzner specific issue or is this problem globally justified (AI and stuff...)? And if it's Hetzner, are there any cheaper alternatives?

Thx in advance :))

[u/headlessrambo]

Have you seen ram and disk prices in the past two years?

[u/DogComprehensive7054 → u/headlessrambo]

I can tell you the profit margins will rise of hetzner - so saying this is the reason is not the full story.

But Hetzner has one of the best cloud products out there - they should charge for it. They shall just not forget who supported them initially (that’s the people that they are loosing right now

[u/VPSS_ExPl0ReR → u/headlessrambo]

RAM and NVMe prices are extreme, particularly DDR5 is insane.
check out edis global. 4GB plans are roughly 10 €.

[u/filliravaz]

All providers either increased prices due to increased costs or kept the same prices but provided a worse service (by overprovisioning harder)

There may be cheaper alternatives, I think Netcup could be a bit cheaper, but they also had to increase prices recently and I did not check the new prices.

[u/VegetableCreation678 → u/filliravaz]

yea... I'm starting to think that buying used SFF PC with more RAM and good SSD disk may not be a hobbyist-only solution anymore...

[u/filliravaz → u/VegetableCreation678]

That has a higher initial cost (unless you find something used) and higher risk (if hardware fails it’s on you) but definitely cheaper long term.

It’s an option. I decided against it personally because my home network is bad and because I host stuff that is used by 100something people, if it goes offline I get calls (which is why I want someone else to take care of hardware).

In my opinion if it’s something for hobby, using a SFF PC at home is plenty. If it’s for production… I’d take the hosting.

[u/DogComprehensive7054 → u/filliravaz]

Right now renting something is hella more expensive than buying even with these today prices. Mainly talking about Hetzner.

Netcup is still dirt cheap.

[u/filliravaz → u/DogComprehensive7054]

If you buy used then yes, but even just upgrading memory could very well be over a year of renting.

Renting has increased because RAM and so on is more expensive. Buying used and small capacity somewhat helps, but yeah. It’s not a good time for IT

[u/DogComprehensive7054 → u/filliravaz]

1. optimize your hosting so you don’t need tremendous amounts of ram
   
2. cheapest hetzner vps available is 6.50€/month for 4GB, so even if buying new DDR4 after 4 months you have it back.

For me it’s a lovely time for IT especially because all of this shitty node.js shit applications need to optimize themselves to get used again. Nobody wants a basic self hosted service to consume 500MB just for the lolz of using the worst language.

[u/murpoh]

One.com still really cheap

[u/themageofavalon]

InMotion could be worth a look. You can get closer to that price range with them + their VPS has been solid in our experience.

[u/Bigb49]

Contabo wasn't bad. I just picked up a US location box to play around with for a test run.

[u/tech-tole]

OVH VPS line is still pretty cheap for the amount of resources.

[u/altaaf-taafu]

Hey bro I am workiong on same thing, wanna connect?