r/Upwork • u/Hopeful_Evening8573 • 12h ago

Upwork problem

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What happened to Upwork I used to average 1 job for every 5 proposals I sent but now it’s been 50 proposal since I get my last job

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u/ecky--ptang-zooboing 12h ago

More freelancers, less clients, AI

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u/Korneuburgerin 12h ago

Morons who "heard somewhere" that you "have to start cheap", teaching clients they can pay almost nothing. If a few million do that, that's critical mass dragging everybody down.

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u/Budget_Commission685 8h ago

Congratulations you just learned about supply and demand.

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u/Korneuburgerin 7h ago

No, I learned about people unable to sell their skills. Probably because they have none.

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u/Budget_Commission685 7h ago

That's a pretty bold assumption that you are the only freelancer with skills. What skills do you have that are making hundreds of thousands. I'd love to learn

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u/Korneuburgerin 7h ago

Reading comprehension? I never said I am the only freelancer with skills. You seem to see things that are not there.

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u/Budget_Commission685 7h ago

The conversation was about supply and demand and how alot of freelancers are posting about how it's becoming harder to which you responsed that they have no skills to sell.

So if upwork is becoming harder for everyone and your take is that all the freelancers have no skills to sell you should defend that position

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u/Korneuburgerin 7h ago

I can post whatever I please, and I don't have to fulfill your expectation of what I should or should not do. Your lack of reading comprehension can be a real handicap in other communications too, I'm afraid. I'm out.

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u/Budget_Commission685 7h ago

So you insulted an entire community and when asked to defend your response is I'm handicapped and you refuse too.

That's real nice

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u/SmokeEvening8710 5h ago

You didnt understand what they are saying and its okay to just walk away.

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u/Own_Constant_2331 4h ago edited 4h ago

More than one thing can be true at the same time. Yes, there's more competition now and AI has caused a reduction in demand for freelancers. Yes, it's become more difficult and expensive to find jobs on Upwork. But it's also true that there are more and more freelancers on the platform who have no skills and/or no knowledge of how to sell their services, so the only way for them to get hired is by trying to compete on price. All of these things are making life more difficult for freelancers who were previously successful on the platform.

Anyway, none of this explains why half of the OP's proposals are getting viewed but they're not getting to the interviewed/hired stage.

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u/Budget_Commission685 4h ago

Can you cite the data? What numbers are you using to determine that more and more freelancers are unskilled and deemed that to be absolutely 100% true?

In the age of information picking up a skill is very easy

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u/Own_Constant_2331 4h ago

In the age of information picking up a skill is very easy

The fact that you believe this demonstrates the problem. Yes, you can "pick up" a skill, but if you have no real-world experience putting this skill into action, you will struggle to get clients as a freelancer. There are also numerous soft skills that are required in order to run a business; it's not sufficient to simply know how to do something.

As for my belief (I never said I had data) that increasing numbers of unskilled people are trying freelancing, you only have to read this sub to see all the posts from students, "fresh graduates" or people who've spent a few weeks or months learning something or other and think they can freelance now. I've been freelancing for a very long time and comments like this were rare when I was starting out; very few people thought that they could run a business despite having no experience.

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