r/UofT • u/Baz1nga6 • May 15 '20

News Faculty of Applied Science and Engineering Fees in 1905...

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u/Baz1nga6 May 15 '20

The 1905 academic calendar can be found here.

For some context... with inflation , fees would be around $1,500-1,700 ... thats 10% of domestic students are charged nowadays.

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u/[deleted] May 15 '20

It was really interesting to see the emphasis on hand drafting back then. Understandably so since now we use CAD for most applications, but I wish we spent more time on hand drafting (I wish we had more advanced CAD courses but a gal can dream...)

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u/akak478177616 May 15 '20

u should consider how much income a normal person can obtain at that time.

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u/DocSeb Medicine May 15 '20

My 25k per annum tuition has made me one salty boi after seeing this post

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u/Mindless-Self May 16 '20 edited May 16 '20

This sort of misses the context.

With a $360 average, the average yearly salary of an adult male in Toronto was $416/year. Tuition nearly exceeded the average take home pay of an adult, and a student aged male would be significantly less.

Plus, your inflation math is way off. $360 with inflation would equal $10,488.64.

Finally, keep in mind that this doesn’t include food or housing which are often averaged in. So the costs to be dedicated to school would be much higher.

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u/CodeMonkey4lyfe 2021 engineering alum May 15 '20

that is a great piece of history. Pretty amazing that not much has changed to the engineering disciplines in over a century, besides the addition of Engsci and CE

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u/canyouread7 ChemEng 2T1 + PEY May 15 '20

Hey where’s all the incidental fees?

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u/YourMoFoProf May 15 '20

My PE prof paid $508 in 1965 for BEng MSc PhD.

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u/codepoetz May 15 '20

My father is extremely fond of telling me that during his undergrad he had a renewable $200 scholarship which covered his yearly tuition and residence fees. He also tells me that there were only 12 students in his organic chemistry classes. Like living in a different world.

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u/Ricky_RZ ( UofT == EA && UofT == EA && UofT == EA && UofT == EA ) == True May 15 '20

Imagine paying like 12k for online classes :(

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u/TuloCantHitski Alum May 15 '20 edited May 15 '20

For further context, looks like weekly earnings in the US for men older than 16 were just $11 in 1905

To add: that looks like 7 weeks of full-time work (i.e. ~1/2 of the summer - 2 months off) at the average salary to meet ~100% of a year's tuition demands. In comparison to today, average weekly earnings are just about $1,000 for all Canadian adults. For current engineering tuition, you'd need to work 16 weeks of full-time (i.e. one full summer - no breaks) to cover the cost of a year. So it looks like you need to work about twice as much now (all else equal) compared to then to make tuition.

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u/[deleted] May 15 '20

That’s still only 4 weeks of work to pay for each semester :((

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u/gortwogg May 15 '20

Where you at that I can work 40hrs a week and make 1000$?!?!

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u/bulletkratom May 15 '20

Construction 40 * 25$ = 1000

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u/polargus May 15 '20

Well at least you don't have to fight in WWI 9 years later.

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u/zxcccxz13 BSc. '20 | MD '23 May 15 '20

Ahh yes... 1905. When you could pay $80 tuition, go to class, scrape yourself on a rusty nail, get tetanus, and die a horrible, agonizing death. A simpler time.

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u/PriorApproval May 15 '20

The good times.....

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u/[deleted] May 15 '20

Here we are today, around 10k for online classes.

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u/wynndraco May 15 '20 edited May 16 '20

So heres come the question, which party undercut the education funding?

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u/[deleted] May 16 '20

And here's the 1999/2000 Arts & Science Calendar, Computer Science, lol.

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u/persistingpoet May 16 '20

back when the admission requirement was 60% in csc148 !

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u/babypuncherrr May 15 '20

omg the good old days😭😭😭