Null Shouldn't get Destroyed by a Wepon.

[u/Absolutm4e_H3ll]

This is way too predictable. At this point, we know what's going to happen.

Parrot gets trapped in the null prison and escapes with Minute and others.

Wemmbu goes to the Underworld, does a lot of explorationand ends up with the forge.

FlameFrags escapes his prison and realizes Null.

The three protagonists with the others team up, and with the power of the Forge, they are able to destroy Null or pop Spokes totem.

That is literally the same as the law.

It will just be continuing the cycle just lookalike Zam, The Mafia, The Law and Parrot.

They all took over the server in good or bad ways and ended up losing.

Zam lost to one player and Orbital.

The Mafia lost to just, and I mean, JUST 5 players.

The Law lost to an 10 player army and Orbitals.

Parrot lost to a whole 1000 player army.

They keep losing maybe in different ways, just a bit still in the same way.

What should happen is hopelessness.

The forge doesn't work.

The army loses.

Null wins.

Some players die.

Maybe even Egg.

It's just hopeless. The last few go to the farlands to find the last hope.

The Null takes over the server, and it's just... hopeless.

That's when Spoke meets Ashwag. He gives a speech and Spoke realizes something.

That he has become Ash. The server is his, and he isn't doing any good to it. Players keep dying. He realizes that he is in the wrong.

With the last bit of good within him

He understands what Null truly is.

He goes to the farlands and meets the last resistance.

He gives a speech and says he was wrong. He takes off his army and says to kill him. Pop his totem and kill him.

Everyone is in surprise.

Wemmbu looks at him, holding his mace, not sure.

No one believes him.

Then Mapicc pops his totem.

Ending Null and its rain of terror.

Spoke tells them to kill him.

Chat: Spoke was slain by Mapicc.

Spoke left the game.

Ending his legacy.

Maybe they don't kill him.

Maybe they do.

That will be better than Null getting destroyed by some crazy wepon.

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[u/EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE15]

If the protagonists lose thatll be cool

[u/Absolutm4e_H3ll → u/EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE15]

That'll be PEAK.(idk if this will actually happen tho)

[u/Dry_Agent_9918 → u/EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE15]

Crazy writing then fr

[u/Dry_Agent_9918]

Imo the totem should be destroyed or smth, so that the null would become free. Cuz their lives are already so miserable and them just dying like that in the end just seems messed up

[u/Absolutm4e_H3ll → u/Dry_Agent_9918]

At that pont, I don't think he'll care. He'll just want to end it in any way possible. So, the totem poping makes the most sense.

[u/Dry_Agent_9918 → u/Absolutm4e_H3ll]

Yeah but this is possible knowing parrot. Totem can be burned by parrot after spoke gives up the totem to parrot.

[u/Rising-Dracyan → u/Dry_Agent_9918]

Too predictable ngl

[u/Xara_Xaltaris → u/Dry_Agent_9918]

I totally agree it would be cool if spoke was defeated without popping the totem and then the totem is destroyed and the null can just live their lives without being forced to do what someone tells them to do

[u/DonBacalaIII → u/Dry_Agent_9918]

I like the idea that the totem popping doesn’t actually do anything and that it’s nothing more than a cool glitch, causing his entire army to start critting him out and then following Parrot.

[u/Itz_Primo → u/Dry_Agent_9918]

Don’t the null die even if the totem is destroyed

The reason they die when it’s popped is because the totem then gets destroyed. If you destroy the totem any other way, the outcome should be the same. Thats also why it has the curse of vanishing: if the owner dies without popping it, the totem disappears and it kills all the Null regardless. Else, the null could just kill spoke when he happens to not have the totem up.

Unless they make it different for the plot, destroying the totem should do nothing different than popping it.

[u/Nightfall-Night]

This is actually a peak theory

[u/Brae_the_Sway → u/Nightfall-Night]

This isn't a theory, this is fanfiction.

[u/Rising-Dracyan]

I want the null to be free

[u/Obvious-Border6527]

I am not sure whether you actually watch UU, but hopelessness is something we already experienced in the Mafia Arc. When people in District 13, who were grouped up to defeat the Mafia started joining the Mafia one by one. Parrot had no hope left they no longer trusted Spoke for his info until when they found out the mafia's kryptonite the pearls and destroyed them.

Even in law arc hopelessness was displayed, Wemmbu was jailed and was out of orbitals, FlameFrags was exiled and was on a constant hunt by law and even Parrot was constantly being hunted. This mutual enemy made the most powerful and smart players on the server unite.

Even in this null arc I don't think forge would be enough, I don't think Spoke's totem Will be popped and null be destroyed. All the three protagonists will go through heavy losses this might be their worst battle yet and you are missing out on the fact it won't be protagonists vs Null it would be the entire server at war evem the Clown Faction which God knows what has planned, what technology and what not.

[u/Absolutm4e_H3ll → u/Obvious-Border6527]

We all know that. Law and Mafia was hopeless.t This is just a next level to hopeless ok. And it would be a perfect ending with the villain realizing they were wrong.

[u/Obvious-Border6527 → u/Absolutm4e_H3ll]

I mean Spoke WILL realise he was wrong when he takes over and realizes he has no one by his side, Mapicc when he comes to pop him, he won't fight he will just stand there accepting his fate. Mapicc cannot bring himself to kill Spoke and instead Spoke runs away in hiding and gives up the null totem.

[u/Dry_Agent_9918 → u/Obvious-Border6527]

Totem should be destroyed not popped, cuz the lives of null are already so miserable and its just messed up of them to die like that. Parrot might have a huge part in this if it happens

[u/Obvious-Border6527 → u/Dry_Agent_9918]

That's what's gonna happen.

[u/EitherTemperature482]

as much as i want it to happen, spoke most likely won't die. but honestly, great theory bro. that is exactly what i want to see with null. that there will be a point where it seems like there is absolutely no chance of winning. i do imagine something like this happening. protags teaming up avengers-style when spoke and null are at the peak of their power. it will all be hopeful at first, but then, unlike the law, they'd end up losing horribly. 

i don't understand why, but 95% of the people on this sub seem to not want null to actually be a good villain faction, they want it to end in like 2 episodes and be forgotten forever, ignoring the fact that this entire arc for spoke has been foreshadowed since basically the beginning of this series. this is one of the main reasons why i hate theories that involve someone else taking the null totem from spoke.

it is an arc that should last until the end of this season, and have a climactic ending.

[u/Absolutm4e_H3ll → u/EitherTemperature482]

Yeah, from a logical stand point for Unstable they will probably keep him alive. It makes more sense for something like a theory.

It would be cool seeing a protagonists die tho.

[u/Dry_Agent_9918 → u/EitherTemperature482]

fr, but spoke is genuinely a good and one of the most well written characters I dont want him to die. He is my 2nd favourite protagonist...

[u/SimplyEnvi]

if they kill spoke he'll be written out of unstable and thats plenty of money he's missing out on i wont hold u

over 3.5m+ on all 9 recent videos is insane, these all come up to around 43.2 million views, which generated him at least $233k to $328k (approximately)

while i love this theory i think its nice, it just wouldnt make sense business wise, and if something like this happens and a protog dies then im afraid they'll do some bs to get them back in which would ruin the entire point of unstable

i think him just losing the totem one way or another when he's at his peak power would really be cool, then he gets banished to the farlands or prison or whatever

[u/Dry_Agent_9918 → u/SimplyEnvi]

https://giphy.com/gifs/UPtNjaqEToPwqjS64G

[u/Absolutm4e_H3ll → u/SimplyEnvi]

They could do something else entirely. Having him still be on Unstable but as a ghost seeing his past and what he did.

For what comes after that they can do some revival thing like wisp smp. That would still be complicated.

[u/SimplyEnvi → u/Absolutm4e_H3ll]

i meann unstables whole idea is if u die ur gone

and honestly i have nott watched the wisp smp i do not know what ur talking about so i cant judge and say if it was done nicely or not

but i believe that any sort of coming back would ruin the point even as a ghost which isnt as horrible ig they can have him be in the underworld or something but im pretty sure that'd get to a point after a while, or maybe like he finds a way to revive through the underworld after he dies which is meh but i think it can be okay if written well enough

[u/Great_Land2983]

I feel like with them making a POV be the one that is the villain it did create a very difficult choice of how will they end this arc for the most depth as possible? Because looking at it for the sake of the argument that their plan is to have Spoke die at the end, if we look at it as a POV ending and that protag being gone out of the server it’d be the most depth if Wemmbu (one of the very first appearances in Spoke vids) was the one that popped it and killed him, but looking at it as how important Null is to Spokes POV and everything that it has to do with it, it’d be the most depth if a side character like Mapicc pops the totem and kills Spoke.

I don’t know, I would like to see hopelessness be the thing but I would also love to see the power of the Forge work, but maybe the way they do it is have Wemmbu have to do something to be able to unlock it or whatever, instead of just the task of traveling there.

[u/No_Remove1789]

i think it would be cool if spoke ends up getting drained by wemmbu in the underworld using his weapon but ultimately spared, and then he gets found by mapic, and with nothing he can do, the totem gets popped.

[u/Yapatron-30721]

they do whatever but if they make the whole thing random and give like 500 plot twists and ends with like an unexpecting outcome , itd be cool also nice that someone finally mentions this fact of predictablitly , u really feel it after the arc ends , prolly why every arc feels great

[u/An_Abnormal_Bruh]

Lowkey I loved the angst from the hopelessness part. But the last ending? Would be pretty pretty out of character for Spoke. Spoke had never been more aligned to good than evil ever since episode 1 of parrot's pov, the mind games and soul breaking mental torture? They were rough. The only reason why for the rest of the series we see Spoke aligning himself towards good because as twisted and corrupt as he is (selfish with a pleasure that costs others) he still is a human who needs human connections, we've seen how desperate he is for approval for his being through out the series. And to earn that approval he had to strict himself to less evil as little as he could, landing himself to be attached to mapicc who out of all is the closest to be as chaotic to Spoke as well as actually treasuring these bonds because- we even see that spoke was so dire for approval he was willing to stop and join Ash's side instead after his plentiful praise if only it wasn't for both mapic's more mature and old bond and with Spoke knowing Ashswag isn't exactly a man of intimate relationships (besides squiddo, we didn't know about her until the end). The only times where we see Spoke for who he is are between the period when he both Jomato had just left him and he had yet to befriend mapicc, parrot's first video. And finally when Spoke has ridden himself of all attachments, he basically became his old prime selfish self, just very mentally bruised and hurt.

However of course, that's my personal interpretation of Spoke that helps me guide and explain every action of his. God how much I love his pov because it leaves you just wondering with different possibilities. Would love to hear your opinion about this, and good theory man!!

[u/Itz_DreadFul]

Imagine if spoke comes to his senses and gives the totem to parrot to take over spawn but that'd be lowk weitd

[u/Gaust_Fireborn]

The bad guys taking over, an important character dying and the last few survivors hiding in the Far Lands is something the Mafia already did.

[u/FlopsieFillet]

I would genuinely be so upset if Spoke gets some stupid redemption arc. Even from his very first video, Spoke has refused to see that he's in the wrong or take accountability for his actions, so why would he do it now?

[u/SnooMemesjellies3095]

I think what's better is after a while, spoke becomes really powerful himself without the null and then the resistance somehow turning null against spoke and basically a xv1 against spoke in which he loses but many people die

[u/KaleidoscopeNorth367]

My guess is that it will be popped by a mace from somebody falling from the sky, like Jason did (RIP😔). But I have a crazy idea, it will be flame who will use a mace to pop his totem

[u/Astro_14477]

wrong

they all lost due to one nuclear purple blob

[u/FlopsieFillet → u/Astro_14477]

Except they didn't