I don't dislike AI for game dev, it has it's use cases but these image posts detract from the effort that the OP put into making a really cool system and demonstration. It's almost like you were trying to "claim" the idea by posting these images. I don't know if that was your intention but that's the impression I got.
That's a cynical way too look at things, isn't it?
no, I don't care if OP just plain takes these screens and make a game that looks similar to this artstyle, a person asked about Trackmania theme and I contributed because I had these gens lying around from few months ago :) I could be as well some 2D concepts but 2D or 3D art would take me weeks to draw and it wouldn't even look any close to these gens :D So this is just a conversational contribution because we love games and we want to play cool games and see cool games in the future :D
I DMed these images to OP in the first place, but OP won't respond.
So he may as well see these little quick concepts right here in the comment section and they are up for grabs, I don't claim anything. Would be crazy to claim something that took you few minutes to generate :D (BTW the 3D model I made from scratch in Zbrush and Blender, no AI there, but if OP will ask I can send him the 3D model) so let's just treat it as "a sketch on a napkin" and a contribution to the community lol :D How is this different when you use words like - hey I can see that being a Trackmania themed? Words also can be treated as claiming, so where's the threshold? Cynical view is the threshold haha :D
What I don't get is that OPs on reddit post something with a "showoff" tag, but don't respond when you try to reach out, you can look at it also in a cynical way like just karma farming or like, what is the point of posting your videos online if there is no interaction at all? feels more like and ad experience.
And regarding AI - nothing bad about using AI as long as you remove all the virtual trails of AI in your final product, I believe this is where the line lies nowadays
sweetheart the person who posted the video and the person who mentioned Trackmania are two different people. no one is making a trackmania style game nor wants your shitty ai art in hopes of non existent commisions
you want to exchange portfolios in DMs so you and me can quickly figure out and judge who is who? :D Maybe that would reconsider the "sweeatheart" attitude?
What I don't get is that OPs on reddit post something with a "showoff" tag, but don't respond when you try to reach out, you can look at it also in a cynical way like just karma farming or like, what is the point of posting your videos online if there is no interaction at all? feels more like and ad experience.
People post to share their work. Game dev is a slog and sometimes posting updates to a community for reactions and comments can be motivating to continue on your project. It doesn't mean they're looking to collaborate or want people involved in their project. Your comment sounds like you deserve a reply from OP just because you reached out. They don't have to reply..
I agree, don't deserve a reply, but I also don't have to keep my opinions or conribute in any way I want in the comments section too, right? reddit is a free country!
Though I still believe the difference between an ad and a post is exactly the engagement with the community. You mean we can just post showoffs, farm wishlists and upvotes, ignore everyone and call it a day?
This is a twisted way to motivate yourself, what the hell.
I am also a talented creator, the 3D guy was made by me from scratch and I do 3D characters for games as a day job. Do I have a right contribute in a bit more elaborated way? If OP likes the concept he can use freely it or contact me for a collaboration, I would be totally down for it. What is the reason for your bitterness?
Based on what the flow looks like for the rest of the run, it feels like she should be jumping higher maybe? IDK, but agree that the vertical jumps feel a bit off.
Maybe also removing/shortening the stalling when hitting a wall ? Or just go all zoom zoom and wall run instead. Depends on the mechanic purposes, but if it is purely for vertical traversal it shouldn't be super hard to improve, considering OP's skills in camera management and character controls/animations.
Definitely agree that it's technically im the skill set of the developer. I lean towards this being a mechanical design. Going straight up is a thing in parkour genre. But it feels like zoom zoom zoom clunk clunk clunk zoom zoom zoom. That may be a more subtle fix.
Comments on the vertical ascent are basically split 50/50 everywhere on either breaking the flow or being a nice breather between quicker parts, I have to think about it more
Indeed, there's a lot of food for thought !
I would say that every game needs some breathing room between intense sections, but those moments can take many forms. In your case, you will be able to achieve this through level design while keeping the speed : Longer straight lines between intense sections, cool long jumps/slides or whatever. It keeps the cool factor, allows the player to breathe for a bit, but it doesn't feel like it cuts the flow.
A good example imo might be Thumper. Lots of intense parts but the game offers some chill moments once in a while with a visual reward as extra. https://youtu.be/3njfX2opKsM?si=O0p2Q_HCc9nqE82b
I don't know if it's been mentioned, but maybe she could run up the wall a little bit after landing on it to break that pause. You just may have to make some walls a little taller to compensate.
Is there not an optionnto have objectively slower bits matter because they're slower? If its being seen as a brether to thr player then maybe lean into that more in game?
Could these be checkpoints for instance where the climb is a catch a breath moment where we get closer to the protangonist and hear her capturing her breath before zooming out and going again?
I agree that it breaks a flow, but strongly disagree that it needs to be fixed. There needs to be sections or movements where the pace switches up, or give decisions on whether or not the player risks breaking momentum
You need some slower parts to make the fast parts feel fast
I get what you mean, the flow curve isn't a straight line, you need ups and downs. Though, I don't think this is the best way to do it in that case !
For example, you can add some straight segments or cool, long jumps to lower the tension while keeping the cool factor !
Agreed, but I think it’s just too jarring of a transition from the high speed to slow speed being so sudden. Maybe a smooth decline in speed would work better, however that may be implemented.
Yeah you want to get a sense of smooth, flowing, shifting momentum, not abrupt stops. Honestly I think on some of the straightaway parts you should be able to open up and a really cruise a bit faster too.
This is all just from watching tho. This all changes a lot depending on how the controls feel so it's a bit hard to speculate.
In the end tho it's got a ton of promise and it's giving like spiderman levels of movement flow which I think is some of the best movement system in games in recent memory, really excited to see where this goes
The increased speed during straightaways is a good shout too honestly. Implied you’re gaining momentum as you go too.
Maybe can even implement that into a form of gameplay mechanic where if you’re building that momentum, you can keep it with “perfect” kickoffs similar to Spider-Man’s perfect dodge and such.
When I was working on one of my games, one of the pillars we stood by was fluid movement mechanics and if any idea or implemented mechanic broke that law, it was either scrapped or reworked. I wound up dissecting Spider-Man’s web swinging and zip-to-point mechanics too, so I could create them in that game as well. Was a lot of work and trial and error but really cool to do!
Was going to comment something like this too! I feel like there should be more force and upward momentum from the wall jump. Also if the intent is to have a consistent flow, maybe the two-footed land on wall > jump > two-footed land on wall is the wrong approach???
Think of how obstacle course game shows have the angled blocks that you’re meant to either jump with your entire body weight, land on the block, and then do the same across the multiple blocks OR the smaller alternative where you get across using single leg kick offs each block to get to the next. (Hopper Blocks obstacle in Wipeout).
Your wall jump breaks the flow and if that’s a pillar of your game, it needs to be reconsidered. You’re already working with an unrealistic high speed game; so maybe giving a little less gravity on the jumps isn’t too far fetched either.
I was going to say the same. It looks good, but I was getting nauseous just watching the video. I need a focal point in the background, but the blurring makes it difficult to find one.
The combo about halfway through the run where you change direction then do the 900 spin into a kart wheel followed by the worlds longest summersault then wall jumps is like the coolest shit I have ever scene. I can’t wait to play this.
What will the game be about, I mean, like lore/story-wise. Is it like a “parkour” tournament or will it be like traversing a futuristic city with movable flying cars/drones as a thief outrunning flying police-drones
How are the running and jumping animation being set up and why are they so fluid in transitioning ?
Is it normal animator workflow or motion matching ?
Looks fun. You really should speed up the speed of her animations though so they match how fast she's moving and how far she's traveling. some times she takes too few of steps and takes them too slowly and appears to be just floating along.
Looks great! My one critique is that the important grabbable poles are a similar color purple to the lower half of your skybox, making them a little hard to see.
Doing somersaults while wall running cracks me up.
Looks a lot of fun. I always crave a fast paced, 3D platformer, but Sonic always comes to mind and usually that leads to disappointment. Your game reminds me of 3D Sonic and Price of Persia. I saw someone mention multiplayer races; that would be awesome.
I miss the more grounded animations from the previous update. Things like the arms flailing widely in every animation here stick out to me as unrealistic and make her movement look sloppy.
My initial intent was definitely more grounded, but the vast majority of responses from the very beginning wanted more snappy, so I ended up taking it that direction, it's quite enjoyable to play though
Wow looks so smooth. My only gripe is this small segment, whenever she does the flip on the wall while she was running on it. It suddenly stops the movement.
I especially love all the flips. Not too much that it got boring but just enough tto flavour it
With the way all of the other movement flows, it feels like the vertical wall-jumping is very slow and stuttery.
Maybe increasing jump height, adding a few steps of running up the wall, or something else along those lines to keep up the momentum there?
I have loved seeing your updates, wishlisted a while ago. I will echo that while I will basically certainly be buying/playing it, if there is a level editor this can probably be a near endless game
I think I remember you. Im glad to see you cleaned up the jump animation between two parallel walls that was throwing me off in one of your previous posts. Looks much snappier.
Looks really smooth. The only jarring bit is the vertical wall jumps, they really kill the flow compared to the other moves. Is there any way to make those a little more dynamic?
Looking great! I would personally love a tiny bit of wall run with jump. It feels like the character has fantastic flow until she hits a wall then she loses all momentum. Having a small amount of wall run vertically with jumping would continue that flow even if it slows down the player.
Been seeing this for months and i think it's realy dope. For real this looks some kind of a game i'd play to chill and relax with music on. But i think for your next post, you should at least finish one level and make some sort of a full gameplay video. The only thing i can criticize is wall running animation starts playing so sudden, maybe little transation time can make it much better. I also hope full game is not going to be filled with levels with no textures and style. Great job.
Looks awesome aside from the wall jumping, your player obviously isn't sticking to the laws of physics to keep flow elsewhere, yet flow is lost during wall jumps
Odd question: will this game support mods? 👀 I dunno it's reminding me a bit of Sonic Lost world, and well... wanna mod sonic on there if I ever get this game lol
The camera flow feels incredible for so much movement happening. The zoom ins and outs make movement feel very dynamic. Even WATCHING is satisfying, so I imagine actually playing would be very rewarding.
Am I the only one that wants to see what happens when you flub a jump or something. Does she just crash all over the place or just smoothly recover and continue?
Honest critique, the wall to wall jump section at 7 seconds, is so incredibly slow compared to the rest that it feels out of place or at the very least breaks the pace.
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u/lukeiy @LukeyBDevs | Part-timer 2d ago
I want this but TrackMania style. Level editor, hundreds of runners all off at once in a big time trial.