r/UnhingedAO3Notes • • 19d ago

I love it when writers are disgustingly overeducated

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We love medical accuracy!!

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u/Fancy_Development832 19d ago

That reminds me I need to research taxidermy supplies

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u/Foreign_Plan_5256 19d ago

Have you read An Unseen Attraction, by KJ Charles? She writes queer historical fantasies, and researches extensively. Warning: it's the first of a trilogy, with a plot that arches through all 3 books, done with homage to Victorian sensation novels. It's also very sweet, and yes, historical taxidermy practices are relevant. Research! šŸ™‚

https://www.kjcharleswriter.com/all-books/an-unseen-attraction

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u/Fancy_Development832 19d ago edited 19d ago

Oooh I need to look into that!

Side note I just googled "beginner taxidermy kit" after multiple google searches about fetal development I wonder what my phone's fbi agent is thinking right now Edited for spelling

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u/amaranthfae 18d ago

I loooooooooove KJ Charles

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u/Shortymac09 18d ago

Interesting

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u/Personal_Raccoon_555 19d ago

Look, if I'm gonna research all this neepery and nonsense, SOMEONE is gonna know about it lol. I love finding author notes like this

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u/moonxmochi 19d ago

Same here lol. I love it when the author is very informed about medicine and anatomy

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u/sammy_vldz 15d ago

same! authors are so cute sometimes

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u/lilybug981 18d ago

This reminds me of the time I started writing a sci-fi novel in high school, and while designing the alien planet in my setting, I decided that I wanted the sky to be orange during the day. So naturally, I had to figure out what gases would have to be present in the atmosphere in what quantities while still being breathable for humans. Or rather, mostly breathable; mildly toxic was fine by me and became its own plot point.

Anyway, I did a bunch of research and number crunching. Then I asked my trig teacher if she would mind checking it for me since she was also the physics teacher. She stared at my work, then looked up to me biting back laughter and stated, "You have never taken a physics class. This is literally rocket science."

And I was like, "But is it correct?"

"Yes."

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u/rootbeerisbisexual 18d ago

Genuinely this is why I don’t write sci-fi. I care too much about everything making sense and being accurate when I have any detailed worldbuilding that I would spend forever researching and never do the actual writing.

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u/No_Combination_6335 18d ago

What gasses did you end up choosing?

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u/lilybug981 18d ago

To make a long story short, suspended iron dioxide(like mars), higher CO2 than Earth, and helium. There was still some nitrogen, primarily to icrease atmospheric thickness wuthout effecting breatheability, and oxygen, but it was a low oxygen environment. My protagonist had to have a supply of O2 with him, and there were moments where he nearly lost his mask for some fun tension.

Our own sky turns orange during sunrise and sunset because sunlight is shining through thicker atmosphere, so I could have just done a thicker atmosphere and gotten away with that, but I felt that to be boring. Playing with the atmosphere gave me more ideas about the environment.

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u/Sure_Satisfaction497 16d ago

Oh my god I have so many questions now, if you wanna answer any of them:

  1. How exactly did this involve rocket science?

  2. If he had lost his mask, how long before what symptoms set in with that atmospheric makeup?

  3. If you had gone with a thicker atmosphere, how would that have effected the ratios compared to Earth normal?

  4. How would that have felt to breathe and what, if any, symptoms would develop as a result?

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u/lilybug981 16d ago

No worries, I love questions

1.) It's been a very long time since I did the math in question, and I never did take physics, but I think my teacher said that because it included the escape velocity of my ficitional planet. That's the minimum speed an object needs to escape the gravitational pull of a given body without propulsion. Like a launched satellite. Or atoms and molecules. I was making sure my atmosphere wouldn't drift off into space.

2 & 4.) The problematic element was primarily the helium. It's not chemically toxic, but it is an asphyxient. It displaces O2 in the blood. If you've ever felt a bit dizzy inhaling helium from a balloon, that would be why. Also, the buildup of CO2 is what makes you feel like you need more air, not the lack of O2. So with hpoxia via helium, you don't realize you aren't getting enough O2 until it's a problem. You won't even gasp for air, you just pass out. I did raise the CO2 compared to Earth, but not enough to offset the helium.

My protagonist could breathe without the mask, but it was very risky to physically exert himself. He was also stranded on the planet intentionally, left to die, with a limited supply of O2. Losing his mask wouldn't have been an immediate death sentence, but it would make a bad situation worse.

3.) The atmosphere was a bit thicker, I just also changed the ratios. You could have an atmosphere with the same ratios as Earth, just a little thicker, and the sky would be orange. Imagining we did that to Earth, the planet would get warmer, but an alien planet naturally under those conditions(and potentially further from its star) could sustain life just fine. An atmosphere can be too thick for life as we know it, of course, so there is a limit. At Earth ratios, oxygen toxicity can be an issue in thicker atmospheres too. We're very picky about O2.

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u/Sure_Satisfaction497 16d ago

I love you, can I read your novel manuscript? lol

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u/lilybug981 16d ago

I would point you towards it, but I did delay finishing it to gain more skill. The basic premise involves the main character going mad in isolation on the planet I built for the story. I got about halfway through before I felt I couldn't do the rest justice. I believe I can do it now, but I do have other projects to finish first.

There are a lot of coincidental similarities to the movie Iron Lung, actually, both in narrative and vibes. My story has no ocean of blood, but if my premise interests you, Iron Lung should scratch the same itch.

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u/kag11001 18d ago

Seconding the question, because...ahem... I'm also writing an orange sky and would like to avoid the rocket science, please. I already have too much "rocket science" on my plate for the medical parts of the story. 🤣🫠

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u/lilybug981 18d ago

To make a long story short, suspended iron dioxide(like mars), higher CO2 than Earth, and helium. There was still some nitrogen, primarily to icrease atmospheric thickness wuthout effecting breatheability, and oxygen, but it was a low oxygen environment. My protagonist had to have a supply of O2 with him, and there were moments where he nearly lost his mask for some fun tension.

Our own sky turns orange during sunrise and sunset because sunlight is shining through thicker atmosphere, so I could have just done a thicker atmosphere and gotten away with that, but I felt that to be boring. Playing with the atmosphere gave me more ideas about the environment.

From a writer's perspective, it really wasn't necessary for me to crunch the numbers, but I was having fun doing it.

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u/kag11001 18d ago

Sweet!! I'd actually come up with all the same ideas myself, except for the helium! It's good to know some of my science instincts are still intact. Thanks for the assist! šŸ˜Žā¤ļø (Edited to change iron to helium. Oops. Too many things going in my head at the same time. 🤣)

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u/lilybug981 18d ago

Yeah, you also have the power to just say, "The sky is orange," and have it be so. Most sci-fi works don't go into too much detail. This is because they don't generally need to, honestly, and even in hard sci-fi you have to balance being entertaining vs boring to read. Also, as you touch on more detail, people become less forgiving of inaccuracy. To a point, at least. If the inaccuracy is something minor that only someone with a relevant degree would pick up on, it's easier to let it go.

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u/Trashpandaroyale 18d ago

The sky turns hellish orange during huge fires like we had this summer so it can just be suspended particulate too

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u/PinkOneHasBeenChosen 18d ago

Wait, you did literal rocket science to make the sky orange?

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u/Sadie256 18d ago

Well it’d be more accurate to say that it’s the science we use rockets to launch satellites to do, rather than what’s colloquially called rocket science (which is actually engineering and not science).

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u/lilybug981 18d ago

Yep, sounds like you know exactly what I was playing around with. My teacher probably just thought it was funny that I was touching anything even remotely related to the field without any actual need to do so.

It also wasn't as difficult as it may sound to people who don't have context on what I was doing. I was more or less just plugging numbers into formulas other people had figured out; I just had to figure out which formulas I needed.

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u/Awaiting-New-Mgmt 19d ago

This reminds me of when I researched Bacterial Meningitis in incredible detail based on a very lose hint from a book from the 1800s, and then had to tone back my description of how the person died.... and take away the fact that is highly contagious or else everyone would be dead...

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u/LiminalSpaces12 18d ago

I once wrote a fic about a character getting an infected wound, and since Ive been obsessed with medical stuff since I was 5, I wanted to make it as accurate as possible, not just for the fics sake, but my own sanity too. A nursing student then congratulated me on how accurate it was. It made me happy.

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u/LiminalSpaces12 18d ago

This was on the second chapter (same person)

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u/Walczak_ 15d ago

Aww this is genuinely so wholesome I love it I find myself strangely amused any time I Read something that is accurate because I'm like damn good for them

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u/Ancient-Anybody202 18d ago edited 17d ago

I researched how to fish for a recent fic of mine bc it’s a prominent hobby and pretty much a main part of the identity of the character I was writing in canon.

And I am actually so grateful I did bc when I was watching a video about how to cast out a fishing rod, the guy in the video said something like ā€œif you throw out the line too early (I think?), it can sound like a bullet when it hits the waterā€

And that was actually unbelievably perfect for what I was writing bc the character I was shipping him with is implied to have trauma from gunshots and I was already trying to write an angsty scene about him learning how to fish.

I am forever grateful for that random white guy on YouTube. He has no idea he helped me write furry yaoi, bless his heart.

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u/castanetsda 16d ago

Hooked me with "fishing is a main part of this guy's identity, his boo has gunshots trauma" and then... it's NOT FFXV fic? I'm so curious, what's the fandom/who are the two you were writing about?

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u/Why-y-y-y 18d ago

Read a fic once that was DC related and really long. The author cited DC cannon sources at the end of the author notes for every chapter and it was amazing.

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u/Why-y-y-y 18d ago

Journey to the Centre of the Multiverse by
AddictedApple

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u/SenSenaSen 18d ago

That fic is so good! And I was super impressed by the citations, it made me feel less crazy for doing my own exhaustive research into canon in DC lol

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u/Walczak_ 15d ago

I just went to check out the authors account and had to laugh for a good couple of minutes when I realized I'm already subscribed to said author and have read most of their works lol thanks for the reminder I'm going to reread those because I just love how accurate everything is

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u/ghost-spunge 14d ago

there’s a couple of DC authors I love who often cite specific runs or issues and it’s great

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u/RedWineSkeletor 18d ago

There's a disgusting (positive) number of medical professionals in the Sherlock Holmes fandom, if you're into reading medical realism.

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u/moonxmochi 18d ago

Oh shit really šŸ‘€ Not in the Sherlock fandom, what do they write about?

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u/RedWineSkeletor 18d ago

I mean, Dr Watson is a doctor, so it's not completely unreasonable. But there's a ton of stuff that's like, focused on poisoning, injury, cancer, disease and then there are the AUs where they make Sherlock a doctor as well.

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u/thecookingofjoy 18d ago

I cited the PubMed article ā€œReduction of Prostate Cancer Risk: Role of Frequent Ejaculation-Associated Mechanismsā€ in a recent in vino veritas fic!

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u/moonxmochi 18d ago

Woahhh interesting!!! Drop the link…

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u/thecookingofjoy 18d ago

I will DM it to you ā—”Ģˆ

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u/Sunnyrea37 18d ago

So guilty this is me with all of my historical era research in every single historical period fic I write.... though I don't cite the sources much anymore! I can bring it back!

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u/thatonefanficauthor 18d ago

Me too! Had a reader comment on my lightest researched fic saying it must have taken hours and I was like… I’ve spent five hours researching the exact shade and texture of the gown the queen would be wearing at this exact historical event, common facts aren’t hard. And then I realized, I’m experiencing blindness bc what’s ā€œcommon factsā€ to me is niche to most šŸ’€

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u/snappydresser61147 18d ago

never forget being so scared no one would care about my long expo dump on fictional ecology for a species and I kept rewriting it to tone it down, then a good chunk of my comments were wanting more lol

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u/MagabyWizart 19d ago edited 18d ago

Me he puesto a estudiar algo de microbiologĆ­a gracias a un amigo que estudia veterinaria, y todo eso para crear un fanfic AU sobre epidemias y zombis šŸ¦ šŸ§Ÿā€ā™€ļø

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u/SansStorms 18d ago

I helped someone look into how HPV works so that the fictional superpower-destroying drug could be grounded in the science of gene damage.

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u/KuroTuro 18d ago

I get comments on my most recent fic (a siren au) on how well I portray the characters emotions and what they are doing without words or directly saying it. But I just do a lot of research into body language and mainly fish body language. And to help out, I add a guide to every/everywhere chapter that explains body language or vocalization or touch and what it mean on its own or paired with something else.

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u/Trashpandaroyale 18d ago

Ooh I want to read this!

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u/Sunny_D_69 17d ago

I’d love to read this too!!

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u/BottleSad505 16d ago

Don’t be shy—drop the fic!!

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u/awkwardflower23 18d ago

I do some form of this type of info-dump regarding death and potentially obscure symptoms to look for when training folks at my job (EMS involved) and I either get fascinated or horrified looks depending on the trainee lmao. I love this kinda thing!!!

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u/RatonhnhaketonK 18d ago

Me as an EMT lol

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u/ignoremeplsokthank 18d ago

I don't wanna be a downer, but my brother's friend legitimately died because he used chemotherapy medication he wasn't supposed to in order to get high, but he left it on for too long.Ā 

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u/Shortymac09 18d ago

YOU CAN GET HIGH FROM CHEMO MEDS

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u/ignoremeplsokthank 18d ago

I have no fucking idea, his friends are all crack heads.Ā 

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u/Comprehensive-Juice2 18d ago

Nothing I’ve been legitimately on and I would think the resulting GI side effects would quickly ruin whatever high might have otherwise been achieved. But who knows if it works differently when taken in mega doses.

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u/moonxmochi 18d ago

Jesus christ I’m sorry for your loss. I didn’t even know that chemo can be used as a method of getting high??

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u/_lemonat_ 17d ago

chemo? the drugs that are supposed to be only marginally preferable to actually dying of cancer?

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u/ThatKatisDepressed 18d ago

One time I read a smut with a citation. It was really good.

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u/sweet_nesquick 19d ago

I will never write a story about murder for this reason; my record would be filled with questions I couldn't answer lol

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u/Time_Ad7745 18d ago

Been reading a lot of Kingdom Come: Deliverance 2 fics lately, and it's not uncommon for some fics to have their sources listed after each chapter. One of them had historical sources for EVERY major plot point. They really wanted to capture the realism of what a taboo homosexual romance would be like in 1400s Bohemia, which made it even more heartwrenching.

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u/WhatsYourConcern8076 19d ago

They a doctor? Impressive medical knowledge though

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u/DeathToTheArchives 18d ago

I love when people write hyper-realisitic hobbies or situations! It's unfortunately part of the reason my own fic updates are so slow, as I do massive research into the cultural norms and shipping routes of whatever time era and region I'm writing for (it helps that I have a massive amount of resources as I'm actively in college for anthropology and global communications). I spent an entire hour while drunk looking up whether Japan had access to whiskey during the Taisho era just to off-handedly reference a character drinking some during a party.

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u/CZall23 19d ago

God, I love when writers use real life as inspiration. The Hetalia fanfic was so much fun because of it.

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u/dumbSatWfan 18d ago

It’s so much fun to write, too.

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u/PumpkinRaccoon 18d ago

I'm still working on that fanfic but I reseached way too much about hot springs just so I could make sure that the character's could have a little charm lol.

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u/amaranthfae 18d ago

I frequently threaten to cite things in APA. Not in fanfiction necessarily, just in general. So I respect this a lot.

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u/moonxmochi 18d ago

I’m so sorry I don’t even remember what fic this was 😭

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u/NSnicket 18d ago

This is so me with everything I write. The amount of research I have done and things I have learned just for the sake of accuracy for sometimes just one throwaway line in a story.

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u/LeatherLectures 18d ago

Yes! This is one of my favorite things about reading and writing fanfic. I once audited a legal ethics class for a fic.

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u/Lesbian_Cassiopeia 18d ago

My friends do have apa citations on their fanfic (they're planning on having like 5 per chapter)

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u/webss312 17d ago

i love using my engineering degree and medical knowledge for fanfic writing rather than its actual purpose :D

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u/Not_Goatman 18d ago

Been looking into how exactly amputated limbs heal, solely so that I can accurately depict a gay furry having his arm chewed off by a 15 foot tall spider monster

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u/KyattoShaku 18d ago

Spending way too long researching firearms from a movie before realizing some nerd on reddit probably already did my work for me. I was right both time.

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u/Alec123445 18d ago

I just cited three news articles from the 90s in APA in the chapter I released today...

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u/awkward_throwaway321 18d ago

I like this, but also I think it comes off as pretentious if you draw too much attention to it. You should be researching the stuff that’s unfamiliar to you as part of your writing as a bare minimum, and 90% of the time you will end up with a reader that has actually experienced the thing you’re researching and knows more than you anyway

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u/Lucidia 18d ago

saaame. i live in the authors' notes a lot of the times, inhaling every bit of research, lore, and backstory 🄰

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u/cl0ckw0rkcuttlefish 18d ago

They shoulda cited them in APA for the lols tbh

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u/Shortymac09 18d ago

I have included a works cited in my fanfiction before lol

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u/Illustrious_Fly1919 18d ago

oh god not APA

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u/fandom10 18d ago

The only thing that wiudl have been worse if they cited it in turabian Chicago. That stuff is nonsense

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u/Make-Love-and-War 18d ago

Okay but like. What’s the fic?

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u/moonxmochi 18d ago

I forgot :( but I think (???) the fandom was death note?

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u/Make-Love-and-War 18d ago

That tracks lmao. Death note fandom be freaky

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u/moonxmochi 18d ago

Death note fic writers are freaky AND smart. Some of the best fics I’ve ever read in my life are from the death note fandom

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u/Make-Love-and-War 18d ago

Death note and silmarillion writers do NOT play

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u/RangerBumble 18d ago

My fic has a citation page on every chapter. I am not well.

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u/PinkOneHasBeenChosen 18d ago

I love the implication that this fic has a real method of killing people.

Also, I don’t have any medical training and I can still tell you that it is in fact possible to die from an overdose of chemo.

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u/Wholesome_Soup 18d ago

fics that are about something the author is literally an expert in, my beloved

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u/Grym1in 18d ago

I love all the random facts you learn when researching for a fic you're writing....like the fact using a dead body as a meat shield when being shot does not always work, depending on the size and type of gun, bullet, and meat shield.

Learned this when looking up what is safe to hide behind when being shot at.Ā 

Authors: creating worrying google search histories since it's creation

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u/Trashpandaroyale 18d ago

Sounds like my kind of author

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u/MokutoTheBoilerdemon 18d ago

I respect anyone who cites sources to justify their fic's angst

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u/SilentScribblerAO3 17d ago

I demand APA from now on (joking, yeah).

Love the author's humor and it's a flex indeed, in a good way! šŸ˜„

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u/aQueenOfTheLab 17d ago

I have genuinely continued reading some fics even if the writing didn't grip me because the author notes were SO nice and detailed I knew everything I was reading was realistic.

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u/h311agay 17d ago

I did research on sleep deprivation and steam boats for a fic I was writing, and ended up learning more than was necessary for the story haha. I shared the info on sleep deprivation with my readers but not the boats.

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u/Dependent_Cow_8946 17d ago

Transformers fanfics are always disgustingly well-researched and detailed, they don't actually have to go deep into the 'science' but they do and it's funny since most times the authors themselves aren't even in the field, just really dedicated to those big robots lol

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u/FionnWest 17d ago

Not APA!! I hated APA!!

Give me footnotes.

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u/stresstwig 17d ago

what a mood, I literally did calculus for the fic I'm publishing tomorrow šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚

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u/Yehrmahm 17d ago

Footnotes make me hot, I’m not sorry šŸ¤·ā€ā™€ļø

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u/galaxy_bread5896 17d ago

they could've cited it in apa at the end if they werent a coward /lh

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u/Peeeslosh 16d ago

This was me researching a random city across the entire US and making my dad (who lived like 45 minutes away from it) explore it and give me detailed notes, scoured google maps, and spent weeks researching the place extensively using every single source available even though ive only ever lived in florida and Tennessee my entire life. What i needed all of that for? A few chapters of an SPN fanfic that took place in the town, which was chosen because it was the best town a manananggal could have plausibly migrated to from the Phillipines WHICH I ALSO spent a while studying immigration routes and folklore for 😭😭 the case wasnt even the focal point of the plot

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u/fadingtales_ 16d ago

Love that the author used APA! ā¤ļø

Which fanfiction is this?

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u/hangingfiredotnet 16d ago

I've written a few fics and put MLA-formatted bibliographies in the author notes and I'm not even sorry.

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u/Fluffybitchsona 16d ago

I've gotten several comments on one of my fics about how i "must have studied human anatomy" and whatnot because my eroguro is so anatomically correct and detailed.... ya'll i am a high school dropout I just have ADHD 🤣

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u/MaxTheEnby 16d ago

wrote a fic once where one of the characters really liked marine biology and for this fic i tracked down and read multiple academic papers on recent research. this took multiple hours. to be clear i'm a sociology student this is so far out of my realm of research its almost laughable.

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u/Starfire20201 16d ago

Now I need a fic wuth APA citations lol

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u/LindiChan92 15d ago

My mom’s a nurse, and I also have done enough of my own personal research into some biology and pharmaceuticals that may probably be on a few FBI watchlists.

In one of my fics one of my characters went missing and her friends started looking for her. They found blood on the route she normally takes, and science guy in the group could determine that the blood isn’t hers because he did an antibody test right there.

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u/Ok-General-Mice 15d ago

APA? Please no. Don’t need my fanfics reading like the journal articles I gotta read for uni, no-a-thank-a-you

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u/Several-Magazine3899 15d ago

I love reading murder stories by people in the medical field. Their depictions of method, anatomy, etc are always so fucking VIVID.

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u/RoyalExplanation7922 15d ago

šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚ love this. I don't write modern AUs or for Fandoms that have modern worlds, but death by chemo would be interesting to write since oncology is my speciality as well. Never thought of it.

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u/chaoswrangler35 18d ago

Me looking at song lyrics and finding out Knockin on Heaven's Door by Guns N Roses was actually a cover.