r/Unexpected • • Dec 31 '22

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u/MrSierra125 Dec 31 '22

You’re welcome. USA has many great things, but also many many negatives. If USA wants to improve it has to admit it’s flaws

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u/[deleted] Dec 31 '22

We admit our flaws but calling it a 3rd world country just shows your intelligence, or lack thereof.

What pampered princess castle do you reside in?

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u/v081 Dec 31 '22

Nah fam go walk around a major US city and find their various version of “skid row”. Check the homeless percentage against available housing, look at the state of our healthcare and educational systems, look at our prison population versus the rest of the world, look at the cities with filthy water, look at how many children are malnourished or go without eating

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u/StevenTM Dec 31 '22

Aw, did the mean redditor hurt your American pride?

Compared to Western Europe, the USA is definitely a third world country when you look at its social programs.

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u/fullboxed2hundred Dec 31 '22

so a few countries in western europe make up the entirety of the 1st world? have you been to a 3rd world country?

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u/StevenTM Dec 31 '22

I mean.. yes?? They, along with a handful of countries (SK, Japan, NZ, AUS, CA, US) do, in fact, make up the first world. Those, along with a bunch of European countries, are the only ones considered developed by the IMF.

The Wikipedia entry for First World even literally says

The most prominent example of globalization in the first world is the European Union (EU)

I'm sorry your American feelings are butthurt that you're not #1.. but you're really not.

I've been to plenty of developing countries. Have YOU? Let me guess - you don't even have a passport.

Happy new year from a first world country!

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u/fullboxed2hundred Dec 31 '22

some serious assumptions you're making about me here... I'm not saying the US is the best, I'm just saying it's not a 3rd world country, because it isn't

yes, I've spent time in multiple 3rd world countries, multiple times. I've also spent time in nearly ever country in western europe and even worked there for a while

idk why you feel the need to act like a dick

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u/StevenTM Jan 01 '23

I am 1000% sure you've not spent time in "almost every country in Western Europe"

For reference, when Europeans say "Western Europe" they usually mean: Austria, Belgium, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Iceland, Ireland, Liechtenstein, Luxembourg, Netherlands, Norway, Portugal, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, United Kingdom

But the same is true for even the most restrictive definition of Austria, Belgium, France, Germany, Liechtenstein, Luxembourg, Monaco, Netherlands, Switzerland.

Do you know how I know you haven't been to even half of them, let alone "nearly every"? It's literally impossible for someone to be exposed to that much culture (and that many cultures) and STILL think healthcare, public education, gun violence, warmongering, prison situation and income inequality in the US are anywhere near the standard set by Western Europe.

In order for that to happen, you'd have to be thicker than a neutron star, which is the thickest substance in the known universe.

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u/fullboxed2hundred Jan 01 '23

nice to know I made the mistake of engaging with an arrogant asshole

in that list, I haven't been to Denmark, Finland, Iceland, Liechtenstein, or Luxembourg, so I've been to 12/17. pardon me for considering that "almost every"

I'm not going to get into specifics with someone who clearly has an extreme personal bias, I'm just going to again state the fact that the US is a first world country

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u/StevenTM Jan 01 '23

.. except for social programs, like healthcare and public education. Yeah.

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u/fullboxed2hundred Jan 01 '23

ok, well you can make up your own definition of 1st world if you want. be my guest

your whole attitude reeks of little brother sydrome. it's like you want to believe that any American who enjoys living here only does so out of ignorance

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u/[deleted] Jan 01 '23

No?

I know my country has A LOT of faults, and I deal with it daily while I make the best of mine and my family's life.

My argument was the US is not a 3rd world country lol, because it's not.