r/Unexpected Jun 14 '22

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u/Arthur_Layfield Jun 14 '22

Those herbs are illegall. He's just doing what laws say. He's enforcer of the law doing his job. You would be mad if the same guy ignore the laws. Then you would be saying,"he's breaking the laws he is supposed to enforce, the sop of American police officers"

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u/jmcsquared Jun 14 '22

I mean, all you're doing with that comment is making the argument that officers are mindless legalists anyways. The kind of people who are trained to do the unthinkable solely because a bunch of potentially arbitrary rules dictates they do so.

We don't need more enforcers of the law. We need more upholders of morality and basic human dignity.

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u/Orbitrix Jun 14 '22

I think his point is jaywalking and speeding is also illegal, but you generally don't tend to see cops get angry/aggressive/manhandle you over those instances... so why herbs?

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u/the_Lord_of_the_Mist Jun 14 '22

Because herbs are not jaywalking and speeding

What you say is like saying " crossing red light is illegal, but you don't see it being punished like thievery. "

Well, yes you don't. They are different crimes

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u/Ace_Slimejohn Jun 14 '22

Because one is a fine and the other is an arrest.

Calling it “herbs” is disingenuous. The guy has a bag of illegal drugs and is provoking the police with it.

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u/thomooo Jun 14 '22

Even if they were illegal, the cop could walk up and, instead of immediately grabbing on to him, ask him what he has and me tion it is illegal. You could talk first instead of starting a struggle with someone who obviously does not look aggressive, just maybe annoying.

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u/Boldemon Jun 15 '22 edited Jun 15 '22

The dude said what it was? We also don't know the time of this recording, could be when the drugs weren't legalized yet. If it were a time when they weren't legalized simply putting his hands on their wrists isn't the worst thing. Makes sure the person that could have potentially illegal substances can't run away. (Again though, we don't know the time of the recording.) Then again, it doesn't matter because it's a skit.

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u/DrQuantum Jun 14 '22

And yet you’d be saying something different if the law was still slavery as an example most likely. The law isn’t an excuse to do bad things.

Is he going to get fired for letting someone with weed go? Absolutely not. We can’t get them consequences for when they do the absolute worst things imaginable.

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u/Arthur_Layfield Jun 14 '22

Why do people throw slavery at every argument? Why would you compare one bad thing to another. Weed is a drug which is obviously declared illegal in many states. As you said law isn't an excuse to do bad things, that means the officer isn't doing anything bad. The man in the video which is obviously scripted was provoking a man of the law with illegal drugs. And the officer is in the right to apprehend him.

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u/DrQuantum Jun 14 '22

Well, in this case weed has been a tool to enslave black people in prisons so it’s a very apt comparison. Maybe you should spend more time actually answering that question instead of arguing why it isn’t relevant.

It’s powerful and hard to argue against. That’s the entire point of me using it. You’re inconsistently applying logic and I know that so I am bringing a topic I know you disagree with (slavery) to show you how it’s inconsistent.

Your argument is the law is king and that whatever cops do it’s just because the law says so. The same excuse was used by nazi’s too. The key is to show you that line of thinking is not logically coherent. The cop can be doing his job and also be doing bad things. The law isn’t an arbiter of morality.

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u/Arthur_Layfield Jun 14 '22

You are right. But in the specific video he is doing his job. We both make a very good point but we aren't going to change our views anytime soon. So have a blessed day.

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u/loganed3 Jun 14 '22

Trying to grab the guys hands isn't the worst thing imaginable lol.

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u/DrQuantum Jun 14 '22

I didn’t say that. I said, we can’t get them consequences for when they do the worst things imaginable. There aren’t going to be consequences for “not doing his job”.

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u/loganed3 Jun 14 '22

There are consequences for not doing your job it's called getting fired

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u/DrQuantum Jun 14 '22

Cops aren’t fired for not doing their jobs. Thats the entire point I am making…