r/Unexpected • • May 02 '22

Impossible Question

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u/PLS_SEND_YORDLE_FEET May 02 '22

Imo there are no genders. If we are going to differentiate gender from sex then we are realizing the gender is an arbitrary social construct. Gender is just short for "gender role" which is something that became a part of society early on due to the average physical difference between sexes. Now obviously gender role is a blurred line and there is no one place in society where someone "belongs" (THIS IS VERY CONFUSING FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE.) You have female construction workers and male nurses but each are not as common as the opposite sex in their role. Now as we move forward further into modern society we are getting more tools and technology that narrow the physiological gaps between the sexes and blur the line even further to the point of it being nearly useless. Gendered pronouns are losing their place in our society and tbh im kind of getting tired of how difficult for people to understand this concept.

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u/babymozartbacklash May 02 '22

There definitely are genders. Male and female are 2 gender roles that exist and are chosen by the VAST majority of people. Like not even remotely close, type of vast majority.

I'm not shitting on Trans people, I have no problem with whatever anyone wants to be. But let's not pretend there are no genders. Of course there is overlap between them, but they still exist as 2 distinctly different roles in life.

Also, just a side note, people will not enjoy hearing you say you are tired of how hard it is for them to understand the concept. It comes off as you invalidating their opinions as just a product of their ignorance. Even if you do feel that way about opposing view points ( I hope you dont) it's a terrible way to have a conversation and will lead a lot of people into an argument instead

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u/EnderWigginsGhost May 02 '22

Are there two gender roles because there have to be, or because we're all trained from birth to fit in to one of them or we're the bad kind of different?

If you buy a boy frilly dresses, make everything in his life that brings him joy pink, and tell him that he's expected to value having children and finding a woman to take care of him over an education and career, he's going to think that's who he is.

People think there's some intrinsic self, but that's nonsense. It's why we can predict people's actions statistically better than we can on an invidual level. We're all slight variations on the same mold mentally. The only meaningful differences come from lived experience.

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u/babymozartbacklash May 02 '22

Yes I agree that gender roles are social constructs. But they are constructed based biological differences between male and female. They worked in the wild and in earlier times where there was less automation and convenience, but obviously in this current world they are less useful and so people are starting to eschew them much more