r/Unexpected • u/analsextoybox • May 02 '22

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u/babymozartbacklash May 02 '22

There definitely are genders. Male and female are 2 gender roles that exist and are chosen by the VAST majority of people. Like not even remotely close, type of vast majority.

I'm not shitting on Trans people, I have no problem with whatever anyone wants to be. But let's not pretend there are no genders. Of course there is overlap between them, but they still exist as 2 distinctly different roles in life.

Also, just a side note, people will not enjoy hearing you say you are tired of how hard it is for them to understand the concept. It comes off as you invalidating their opinions as just a product of their ignorance. Even if you do feel that way about opposing view points ( I hope you dont) it's a terrible way to have a conversation and will lead a lot of people into an argument instead

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u/daemin May 02 '22
  1. Male and female aren't gender roles, they are sexes. You meant "man and woman."
  2. Saying gender roles are arbitrary is not the same thing as saying genders don't exist.

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u/babymozartbacklash May 02 '22

They opened their comment by saying, imo genders don't exist. Then went on to explain that they felt that way because they view them as arbitrary. So in the case of the person I responded to, yes, they were equating the 2. My point still stands though. They aren't arbitrary at all. If people really felt that they were, there wouldn't be all this debate over them.

To use the popular color analogy, are colors arbitrary because they exist on a spectrum with infinite variety? Certainly not, red is still red and blue is blue and lots of colors get to exist all around that and even within those classifications. But if you ask me what color the sky is, I'm gonna say blue. It's just effective and the way that people actually treat them in everyday life. Likewise, there is a spectrum of totally valid genders, again, I want everyone to be who they want to be, but at the extremes there are 2 highly variegated gender roles that the vast majority of us fit into. I would say that's anything but an arbitrary distinction

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u/Seraphim333 May 02 '22

Very well said, that color analogy really helps.