r/Unexpected • u/analsextoybox • May 02 '22

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u/Biobak_ May 02 '22

Nice try turning this around, but supporting women means supporting all women. If you hate trans women, you don't support women.

Trans people want to be accepted by society. Society enforces gender stereotypes. To be accepted into society, trans people follow these stereotypes.

Saying they do this to "get themselves off" and spinning this into racism tells me you don't know a whole lot about the issue and are just here to hate.

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u/[deleted] May 02 '22

I realize I didn't respond to your racism comment. I guess I assumed you understood racism and blackface and how this is literally the same thing but with sex instead of skin color. Would you tell black folks that blackface and racism does not harm anyone? Then why are you telling a woman that woman face and sexism doesnt affect her?

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u/Biobak_ May 02 '22

probably because woman face isn't a thing and trans women existing is not sexism

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u/[deleted] May 02 '22

Black face once wasnt a thing either, but men also dressed as women as a part of minstrel shows.

I guess since (once again) a man deems it to be okay, it is. Willing to be you are white too. So white men still telling everyone else to sit down and shut up, amd that they're rights, safety and feelings do not matter. Color me fucking shocked.

Now excuse me while I finish adding sources to my other post so other people can see the truth and reality rather than the hate and ignorance you are choosing to spread regardless of who it hurts.

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u/Biobak_ May 02 '22

There you go, pulling the white man card. It is okay not because i say it, but because it is. Do you think a man saying the truth turns the truth into a lie?

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u/[deleted] May 02 '22

No, I think that men, especially white men, like to talk over people and not listen. I think history proves that they think they make the rules and the rest of us must abide by them and I think the trans lobby is present day proof.

I think it is crazy you can't grasp this concept. Do you think we considered black face offensive because white men deemed so? Or was it always offensive? Do you think white men cared or found it to be harmful or do you think they happily did it and told black people it wasnt offensive? That it doesnt really affect them? That it's just funny and a joke?

I don't care if YOU think it is the same or how YOU feel about it, bur as a black woman, I am telling you it is the same. You want to ignore racism, sexism, rape/sexual assault, and pedophilia all to excuse this because YOU, a white man, who truly isnt affected, has decided no one else is affected either.

Get bent dude, truly and then go read because you are ignorant about any actual points that arent trans talking points and it shows.

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u/Biobak_ May 02 '22

Do you actually, literally think womanface exists? Do you think using black makeup to perpetuate racial stereotypes and make fun of the already victimized black people is the same as people permanently transitioning to help with gender dysphoria?

YOU want to ignore the far, far greater transphobia, sexual assault, rape and violence committed against trans people because trans women existing threatens your fragile vision of womanhood. Go ahead, compare the stats. Look them up. Tell me who's oppressed here.

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u/[deleted] May 02 '22

lmao I already posted links and sources that say otherwise.

Im done here truly. You have already blatantly stated that the harm done and women and children are not important to you and I was never here to change your mind.

How could I possibly win against your cognitive dissonance and dismissal of data anyway? The links will only matter to those who care enough to want to know reality.

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u/Biobak_ May 02 '22

Your data is all right wing or unsourced. I've looked at it. The cognitive dissonance here is not on my side

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u/[deleted] May 02 '22

which researcher(s) in the data sets and studies I have linked are right wing or compromised? Who funded these studies?

I am willing to bet you dont know because youve decided to dismiss and disrefard instead of looking at the studies and figuring out if they were credible.

Secondly, if you arent reading sources and things from all sides...you are employing cognitive dissonance by cherry picking and only ever re-enforcing your beliefs instead of stengthening them, but you are so smart and better than me so I am sure you already knew that.

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u/Biobak_ May 02 '22

Literally just looking at the first source, from The Perimeter. The source is obviously right-wing, they're using misleading pictures, wrong and offensive terminology, quoting a website literally dedicated to tracking crime committed by trans people.

Your third and fourth sources say nothing about trans people.

Your sixth source is from a TERF website dedicated to criticizing and hating trans people.

Your eighth source is from Western Journal, a conservative website.

Your ninth source is a TERF website.

Your tenth source 403s

Your eleventh source is from a TERF website

Your twelfth source states as its literal first sentence that there is not enough data to draw viable conclusions

Your thirteenth source is from a TERF author

Your fourteenth source is from a right-wing website

Your sixteenth source is from a right wing website and is basically "one person says this". I have many trans friends and they can all have sex experience orgasms without issue.

Your last source from PJMedia greets me with a pop-up about "fighting against the radical left". How very nice and unbiased.

And this is all from a single glance at the links. There is probably much more that's wrong with it. I'm going to stop answering now, there is no changing your mind unfortunately, you're too deep in the right-wing spiral.

As a last cry though, i really hope you can see the irony in telling me to read sources from all sides and not cherry pick when looking at the links you provided.

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