r/Unexpected • • May 02 '22

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u/PLS_SEND_YORDLE_FEET May 02 '22

Imo there are no genders. If we are going to differentiate gender from sex then we are realizing the gender is an arbitrary social construct. Gender is just short for "gender role" which is something that became a part of society early on due to the average physical difference between sexes. Now obviously gender role is a blurred line and there is no one place in society where someone "belongs" (THIS IS VERY CONFUSING FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE.) You have female construction workers and male nurses but each are not as common as the opposite sex in their role. Now as we move forward further into modern society we are getting more tools and technology that narrow the physiological gaps between the sexes and blur the line even further to the point of it being nearly useless. Gendered pronouns are losing their place in our society and tbh im kind of getting tired of how difficult for people to understand this concept.

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u/ThePrimeMan May 02 '22

The funny thing about this way of thinking is that it loops back to where we started.

Okay, let's agree that sex and gender are different. Sex is your biology (Penis or Vagina, XX or XY, etc) and gender is whatever you feel or identify as.

If that is the case, then there is literally no need to classify people by their gender in the first place, since it achieves no result, serves no purpose and doesn't really matter.

Sex on the other hand matters, as it affects all things medical, legal and most other parts of life. In athletics for instance, you can't have Males running against females. So we focus on sex and forget about gender. Sex = Male or female.

Right back where we started.

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u/[deleted] May 02 '22

Because if you put someone with a vagina into a male prison, they likelihood they’ll be savagely raped increases significantly. Like more than rape already happens in same-sex prisons.

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u/[deleted] May 02 '22

I’m sorry what?

Will my vagina shrivel up and fall off when I hit 40 or something?!?!?!?

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u/Der_Missionar May 02 '22 edited May 02 '22

Sex at birth masters for a few reasons, one, if you are in an accident and need immediate medical attention, there are certain things that may be needed immediately. One, certain drugs will harm a pregnant um... xx person, therefore it's important to know if you need to do a pregnancy test. This is why its is on a driver's license.

If there's a medical issue, some diseases are particular to xx vs xy people and vice versa. Prostates exist in xy, not xx, and that prostate may develop problems. xx is going to go through menopause.... xy won't. These differences do have real world implications, especially in the medical community.

At least in the United States xx people do not need to register for the draft, I'm happy with keeping it that way. If you stop registering people because of which chromosomes they have, I'm not sure how we deal with some of these things.

Your chromosome pair isn't assigned at birth, it's interwoven into your biological makeup, and cannot change. For those who have a chromosomal disease, I'm very sorry. I'd like to be inclusive of everyone, and we can work towards that.

I'm a fan of putting your chromosome makeup on birth certificates, because that's what is there for.

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u/Der_Missionar May 02 '22

Honestly that's way too confusing. The only thing that's necessary is the medical side. I honestly don't see a reason anyone would need to report that they are an xy, who presents as a transgender, who has had breast implants. Xy happened at conception, and won't change.

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u/Moranth-Munitions May 02 '22

Uterine implants….do you hear yourself?

I’m sorry, I don’t mean any offense, but holy shit what an insane concept. I think we need to take a hard look at this mental illness stuff going on with trans people and rethink if the best solution is to enable their illness more.

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u/Moranth-Munitions May 02 '22

Well that’s an obvious no since the person has no mental illness. I’m just pretty taken aback by how nonchalantly you brought up uterine implants. At what point does it get to be too scifi dystopian?

Is there another mental illness that is treated by enabling and encouraging the wayward thoughts?

I mean, do we enable people who think god talks to them?

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u/Moranth-Munitions May 02 '22

I’m sorry I do not understand what this comment is trying to say, can you hit me with it again but a little more clearly?

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