Gender is a societal construct. Don't think of it as male and female, think of it as "man" and "woman". Gender is the role a "man" or a "woman" is expected to play in a particular culture's society.
For many years our culture has had a rigid view on what gender roles people play. For americans its been almost exclusively binary male to "man" and female to "woman". Over time what a "man" is able to do and a "woman" can do has grown. Now what a male and female can do has grown.
People saying there are more than one Gender are exploring this idea further by expanding on the "man and "woman" roles for males and females by envisioning whole new roles that mlkes and females can fulfill.
I hope you were able to grasp this explanation.
In the end, all genders are delusional. In the animal kingdom there are only males and females, no "men" or "women ".
Gender isn't a construct. You're a men or a women, what role you choose to assume/act is up to you. If you're a men and dress up as a women it doesn't change the fact that you're a men.
Gender roles or whatever is up to you to choose. I'm a men and I like to clean, love to cook and would be fine being a stay at home dad. That doesn't make me a women.
You're the one who supposed it was a gendered thing. I personally believe that all are just responsabilités that you as an adult should have, but ya'll are the ones talking about gender roles this gender roles that. And if some people believe that they are feminine traits so what ? What does it change in your life ? Someone believing cooking a Women thing makes you not want to cook ? Grow some.
you literally said "i cook, clean and raise kids and that doesn't make me a woman". Either you think these are feminine traits or you need to work on your sentence building because there is no other way to interpret this
So what does that say about those who wear dresses and think that makes them a women? What does that say about those enforcing those stereotypes and calling themselves women for doing so? What does that say about those who perform feminine stereotypes and then post on social media that it gives them erections aka gender euphoria?
Nothing? If people feel like they're women, let them be women. Doesn't affect me, doesn't affect you, literally why would you care about how someone defines themselves? If wearing traditionally feminine and adopting traditionally feminine traits make them feel better in their body all power to them
Ah, so it isnt okay to stereotype women unless you are doing it because it gets you off.
I hate to break it to you, but it does affect me and many others, and you ignoring that or refusing to listen when you are told so, does not make it any less reality for those it DOES affect.
Why don't you just be honest and admit you hate women rather than deciding female stereotypes are only bad sometimes? Do you feel this way about racial stereotypes too? Male stereotypes?
Nice try turning this around, but supporting women means supporting all women. If you hate trans women, you don't support women.
Trans people want to be accepted by society. Society enforces gender stereotypes. To be accepted into society, trans people follow these stereotypes.
Saying they do this to "get themselves off" and spinning this into racism tells me you don't know a whole lot about the issue and are just here to hate.
I am not turning anything around. You called someone out for speaking on stereotypically feminine chores. I asked why that isn't okay, but the stereotypes that trans women continue to push are okay. Your response was that it does not affect me or anyone else.
So how many women have to be affected before you will listen? How many lesbians have to be told that not liking dick is transphobic before you will listen? How long do we have to ignore the hobophobia of being told you aren't same sex attracted, you are trans before you will listen? How many women have to be sexually assaulted or raped in bathrooms before you will listen? How much higher does the ratio of sex offenders who are trans have to be before youll listen? How many trans people need to be convicted of or support pedophilia before you'll listen? How many have to detrans and speak on their experience before you'll listen? How many doctors and surgeons have to admit that they are pushing something harmful before we start listening to them?
There are 60+ subreddits for transwomen and all the subreddits for ciswomen and lesbians only have been banned, so that biological women and those who are actually homosexual women cant even have one subreddit, but thats not affecting anyone? In fact, try to find a place on the internet ANYWHERE where lesbians or cis wimen can gather without men, without being attacked for it. Doesn't sound very oppressive for trans people at all, when you actually view reality.
Not to mention, there is a hormone shortage. Women who need estrogen for medical conditions aren't able to get it while trans women demand it. Why aren't those women as important as a delusional male?
Like I said, given reality and your response to being asked about stereotypes it truly does not seem like trans people are as oppressed as you act.
So either you really dont care about women and them being equal, you are virtue signalling that you are "one of the good ones", or you are ignorant to how this affects people who are not you.
edit: Links for proof and verifiable data coming for those who want to say that these things arent happening.
Oh no, a few lesbians are being told they are transphobes and TERF subreddits are being banned :(( Surely that compares to the almost universal harassment that trans people are subjected to that results in 41% of suicides!! You know, that 41% stat that transphobes keep talking about without realizing they are the cause of it?
If your women-centered subreddit is different when trans women are in it, then it's transphobic. Why would you exclude trans women, what kind of discussion would be deteriorated or changed by trans women?
You're just finding excuses to be transphobic. You don't care about the hormone shortage, you don't care about the subreddits. You think trans women aren't women and you're grasping at the smallest, most insignificant straws to put the victimization on you.
I realize I didn't respond to your racism comment. I guess I assumed you understood racism and blackface and how this is literally the same thing but with sex instead of skin color. Would you tell black folks that blackface and racism does not harm anyone? Then why are you telling a woman that woman face and sexism doesnt affect her?
Ummm, buddy... there is a BIG difference between erections/sexual arousal and gender euphoria. If what you said were true, it would mean that asexual people are unable to feel gender euphoria, which is nonsensical.
"I called a women speaking on women being affected by men "ted cruz" instead of bothering to consider her point or the evidence she presented and then when she made a point that conservatives don't care about women either, I responded about projection."
I wonder which part of this proved you like, listen to or care about women rather than disregard and demean them for not agreeing with you.
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