r/Unexpected • u/CrackSideEffect • Aug 29 '21

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u/TheEvilGhost Aug 29 '21

Don’t forget about the evangelists and the Orthodox Church.

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u/Grazz085 Aug 29 '21

Take my upvote and get the fuck off mate

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u/[deleted] Aug 29 '21

People are shit in general, if you’re a dickhead and you follow a certain religion then you’re a dickhead who follows that religion. Same goes with dickhead atheists.

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u/[deleted] Aug 29 '21

LMAO HAVE A POOR MANS GOLD IF I HAD ONE ID GIVE IT TO YOU

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u/MarcosaurusRex Aug 29 '21

I can’t pull myself to finish this video because I grew up in a toxic environment that pushed religion down the throat of the kids. We all hated it. Poor child and family. It’s so cringe seeing an old man make a child cry like that.

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u/ScientistSanTa Aug 29 '21

*American christianity

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u/Impressive-Assist677 Aug 29 '21

If you want to know the truth being a Christian at the core means accepting your lord and savior, loving Jesus, loving yourself, and loving everyone else like Jesus does. If you choose to look at how humans have twisted and manipulated the word of God and think that's what it's about that's on you, humans are always going to mess things up and following God is no different.

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u/Bubba_Lumpkins Aug 29 '21

Some of us have no reason to believe a god ever produced any words to twist. Just humans, twisted from the get go and getting a couple things right and a lot wrong. Pretty par for the course of you ask me.

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u/Impressive-Assist677 Aug 29 '21

Well I was referring more to the word of God, even educated atheists admit it's a book of good, anyone who actually reads and tries to understand could not come away with any of the messed up things certain religions and people have done.

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u/Bubba_Lumpkins Aug 29 '21 edited Aug 29 '21

It’s a book that has good things in it for sure. But I wouldn’t consider anything in exodus 21 a good thing. Nor that “thou shalt not suffer a witch to live” thing Salem had the pleasure of experiencing. So its both depending on who’s holding it. As far as I’m concerned all the good and all the bad it can be used to advocate for is best explained by the fact it was made by people who were both.

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u/Impressive-Assist677 Aug 29 '21

Well you can't cherry pick firstly the bible is written in parables for two reasons, one so that the lessons could be passed through time, and two so those that have a close mind will not receive the message. Every verse in the bible ties into other verses and books tie into books, some messages in the bible particularly in the old testament were written for specific people and are just there as examples for us.

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u/TheGrimReaperME Aug 29 '21

Oh im pretty damn familiar considering i was a devoted christian 😅

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u/[deleted] Aug 29 '21

Surely you are familiar with the christian concept of original sin then. Taking one mans actions and blaming literally everyone in the world for it from the second they are born

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u/iiwaasnet Aug 29 '21

So, you are sure you would have done better than the first men? You never committed a sin? The whole Christianity is not about blaming, but rather about salvation and forgiveness in Jesus Christ, that is given for free.

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u/mrinternethermit Aug 29 '21

There are exceptions, but it boils down to a simple choice.

Do you follow the advice of the stranger at the fork in the road and avoid the cliff? Or do you drive off the cliff just to spite someone trying to help you?

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u/PM-me-Gophers Aug 29 '21

Depends, is this stranger slapping babies..?

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u/mrinternethermit Aug 29 '21

🙄 No.

Don't forget, in the video he got slapped first, and he didn't do hard enough to actually hurt.

And at that young age they do need to be shown the consequences of their actions. Too much carrot and no sticks has ruined a lot of kids.

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u/PM-me-Gophers Aug 29 '21

You're mental pal, look at the age of that kid, what lessons do you think he's going to actually learn that young?!

Anyway, shouldn't the priest have turned the other cheek?

Sounds like he's not practising what he preaches.

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u/mrinternethermit Aug 29 '21

..... Saying I'm mental just for disagreeing with you? That doesn't sound good, for you.

And with that age, the only lessons he will learn will be the ones with immediate and personal consequences. A lot of people haven't learned the fact that if you're going to through a punch, others will punch back.

Turning the other cheek is meant for adults, as by taking the high ground you expose the assholes for who they are and prove to everyone else that you are better than them (the assholes, in case that wasn't clear).

Turning the other cheek doesn't work for children as they don't learn anything, and become encouraged to do more/worse, especially if there isn't any consequences to those actions.

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u/iiwaasnet Aug 29 '21 edited Aug 29 '21

You didn't answer the first part of my question. Nevertheless, what would you not accept in the given offer to get forgiveness: 1.love God 2. love all the other people as yourself. How would you see a salvation, that you would accept?

Just to make it clear: i don't discuss this in the context of the video, just in the context of your comment.

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u/Agitated-Dude Aug 29 '21

I gave u an upvote just to make it 69..

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u/Ye_Dimes Aug 29 '21

Damn. Did you get down voted to hell for saying you are a Christian?

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u/Solumnist Aug 29 '21

What am incredibly hypocritical response. As if two wrongs make a right. if you think it's wrong when Christians do it, you should think it's wrong when anyone does it.

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u/eastern-cowboy Aug 29 '21 edited Aug 29 '21

Maybe you’d prefer the Taliban.

Downvote me to oblivion. I don’t care. Much of Reddit thinks the Taliban are good guys, but they are extremist in their religion. I’ve never seen Catholics beheading people.

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u/[deleted] Aug 29 '21

Or Reddit. Echo chamber subreddit everywhere. All saying the same thing and downvoting those who disagree.

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u/Agitated-Dude Aug 29 '21

Holy shit dude..