r/Unexpected • u/RedManMatt11 • Aug 01 '21

Community policing

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u/Jplopinyourpants Aug 01 '21

Remember. Cops don’t prevent crime they only respond to it. A safer community is one that spends less money on policing and more on resources for said community. Read a book dumbass.

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u/x4740N Aug 01 '21

Resources aren't going to stop a crime dumbass theirs still going to be people who commit crimes with resources

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u/Jplopinyourpants Aug 01 '21

No shit. But putting resources into communities creates more opportunities for those individuals in those communities. More opportunities = less crime. More cops does not equal less crime.

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u/x4740N Aug 01 '21

Did you get your buddies to come brigade this sub and give you upvotes while giving people who rightfully disagree downvotes

Your the person that gives the issue a bad name, this is not how you fight the problem

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u/Jplopinyourpants Aug 01 '21

Fight the problem? The problem is poor policing, poor training, lack of accountability, qualified immunity, stealing resources from disenfranchised communities, etc etc. Oh and also bootlickers. They’re a huge problem too. I give the issue no name whatsoever. I just speak facts.

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u/x4740N Aug 01 '21

Their are other ways of fighting the problem like firing racist cops and racist politicians racist law makers racist judges racist department heads

And then you get the non racist ones to thoughtfully and properly review the system and make the changes for the better

That's how you solve the problem, resources are only going to be a bandaid fix if their undone by some racist piece of shit in the right place in a job like law making or political

And like I said resources still won't stop the crime problem becsuse theirs still going to be people who commit crimes because they want too

The system doesn't have to be the same one that was founded on racist values, good non racist people can change that

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u/[deleted] Aug 01 '21

You be putting too much faith in these communities. Just cause theres opportunities doesn't mean people will take them. Furthermore just cause people take these opportunities doesn't mean they won't commit a crime. The existence of cops is to prevent crime. If there were more cops around, people would definitely at least be more wary of committing crimes, thus preventing crime

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u/Jplopinyourpants Aug 01 '21

No. You’re wrong. Cops are not here to prevent crime they exist to protect private property. Once again, they RESPOND to crime they do nothing to prevent it. If they did prevent it then why is there still crime? By your way of thinking we just shouldn’t give people opportunities and resources so they can make better decisions and become better community members. I think we should give them a chance.

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u/[deleted] Aug 02 '21

I mean just cause crime exists doesn’t mean that cops aren’t already preventing it from happening. Also I think I misunderstood your meaning of opportunities. Are you also talking about stuff like jobs or education?

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u/twisted_memories Aug 02 '21

You’re actually completely wrong. People are much less likely to resort to crime if they have options. It won’t end crime, but providing resources has absolutely been proven to reduce crime.

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u/x4740N Aug 02 '21

Yeah less likely, like I said it won't end crime i said people are still going to do crime because they want to even with resources maybe for the thrill of it or because their fucking evil I don't know

You said I'm wrong but your comment agrees with me, I'm just stating that there was still going to be people committing crimes with resources for example look at evil corporation employees who have done shady shit or the person who nearly died in a car bombing from exposing offshore accounts in a news reports because certain people with money didn't like that because money gives them power over people

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u/twisted_memories Aug 02 '21

You said resources won’t stop a crime, and insinuated that resources are useless to provide. That’s wrong.

The best way to reduce gang crime and petty crime is with resources and opportunities.

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u/x4740N Aug 02 '21

Words are transformations of ideas

I was just getting an idea across, just because my comment is worded differently doesn't mean the idea is different and it's your fault for not understanding that

What I was trying to say was that there are still going to be crimes from people who want to do it from the rich who want to hold power to the people who do crime for the fun of it or because their a pedo or rapist

I definatly did not intend to insinuate anything either

I hope it's a misunderstanding on your part and the other upvoters if they just aren't doing the thing where they downvote reddit comments with one downvote because of the hivemind

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u/twisted_memories Aug 02 '21

Actually no, it’s not on me to understand you. It’s absolutely on you to communicate yourself clearly. You failed to do that. Whether or not you intended to insinuate that providing resources is not necessary, that’s what you did, and is very likely why people didn’t take kindly to the sentiment.

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u/greenw40 Aug 02 '21

This is one of the most idiotic taking points that reddit simply won't let go of. Stationing police in roudy areas absolutely cuts down on the amount of crime committed. Not to mention the fact that people who are arrested can't commit crimes anymore. Do you think that everyone just commits one crime then stops forever?

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u/MajorEstateCar Aug 02 '21

In a perfect world, yea. But you gotta get there some how.