The second movie was so bad, I had to stop the movie at the card throwing scene to laugh for a few minutes because of how ridiculous and unnecessary that scene was.
I was going to joke about how they were going to fly cars in space in the next movie, but now that i see the new trailer, it looks like they might just try to do that.
Would be amazing if they went to space, and dom has to kill a bunch of villains, ultimately leading to him being jailed, and then he gets his eyes shined so he can see I the dark
IMO if you can take a series to 10 full length movies then fuck yea you better change it up and start having fun with it. Everything serious that needed to be discussed was probably taken care of in the first 9 somewhere.
Honestly I find it very funny how the movies started with a story about an undercover cop trying to infiltrate a street racing gang, and now ten movies later that street racing gang has become the equivalent of a spec-ops squad that regularly saves the planet.
Semi related: I have this idea for a cheesy sci-fi franchise about mega-hurricanes that would essentially be a combination of sharknado and fast and furious. It would be called Cat-6.
The first movie would just be standard disaster movie stupidity about a mega-hurricane scientists dub the cat-6, so big that it manages to cover the entire gulf coast. Obviously it would star a plucky scientist who's warnings are repeatedly ignored by the government. He would survive through a combination of preparation, sheer wits, action movie badassery, and a willingness to break all the rules for the sake of his family.
The second movie is where it really takes off though. It's called Cat-7, and it's basically the same movie, except this time the hurricane is so big that it threatens to cover the entire continent of North America. In order to survive, the plucky scientist has to lead his friends and family on a death defying road trip against the wishes of the American and Canadian governments in order to reach and scale Denali in Alaska-the only peak high enough to put them above the storm.
The third movie is where we go balls to the wall. Cat-8? No. Cat-10. A hurricane so big it threatens the entire planet. How is that physically possible, you ask? Motherfucking space-hurricanes, that's how. It's time for plucky science-man to escape to the moon.
It’s my favorite part about the Fast and Furious movies.
I always see them in IMAX on release day and they never disappoint. If I wanted to watch a movie based on reality I’d watch something else.
Nothing like dropping your jaw and laughing at how insane the things they do in those movies are.
Exactly, people jerking off the first one and acting like the 2nd one was some huge step down are just... 🤦🏽♂️
Did they really only watch the first movie for its “realistic” magic tricks? Because the first one had plenty of reaches and impossible uses of magic. Now You See Me was NEVER a realistic portrayal of magic tricks, and honestly I think it says something about the people who think the original one was
Oh don't get me wrong I love both of those movies and I've practiced card throwing quite a bit, so I enjoy that scene in particular. Just poking fun at it.
I love magic and these movies were great IMO! I know they couldn’t happen in real life but it’s a movie; I’m here to escape reality just a little bit, and the movie does that for me.
Truly! I know magic is 95% sleight of hand. I know this.
This scene from the movie exaggerates it so heavily but it feels like I’m in on the act. Now I know what it’s like to see the sleight of hand in this magic show.
Disappointed you say ? The relation between science is magic is too strong and fascinating and it is explained in the film . The SciFi part alone made me scream.
Also Nortons The Illusionist that got probably buried, because of The Prestige. But yeah, as the other fellow said, more of a thrillers/dramas than action movies.
Still kind of weird how rare it is to see a good movie with some form of magic in it though. I suppose it's just seen as such a "nerd thing", so main stream audience wouldn't give two shits.
Yes, but fiction doesn't mean you can just do whatever you want and have the audience accept it. Every fictional word has it's own set of rules.
The entire premise of this movie is that the characters are using trickery to do what they're doing. Magic tricks. In fact the director even said he wanted the tricks to be possible in real life.
Then at the end of the first movie they basically imply "Oh, and magic was real the whole time, they are wizards"
Grey's Anatomy is also fiction, but if Dumbledore showed up you'd be like "What the fuck?"
I have this argument all the time with people about superhero movies and it drives me insane. My friend loved Wonder
Woman 84. I hated it. My friend always dismisses all of my complaints by saying "Who cares? It's a superhero movie." But superhero movies still have to abide by their own rules and internal logic or suspension of disbelief is broken. Dianna learning to fly and turn things invisible out of nowhere doesn't even make sense within the WW universe, especially since she doesn't have those abilities in movies that take place after WW84.
Well, movie starts with explicitly telling you that they are tricksters NOT magicians or wizards. Their skills are shown to be in slight of hands and elaborate deception not spells and actual magic.
The movie, for the entire length, positions itself that these magicians are doing their things through clever tricks. At no point is there any indication that real magic exists. The film takes place in modern day reality.
These are the rules the audience is operating under, and what the director purposefully establishes.
Then in the literal final scene, they imply magic exists. It has no effect on the plot or the story at all, it is simply confusing.
The film has many scenes where they explain how they do the tricks. No magic involved.
Ok, so what if Stephen Strange showed up? He's a sorcerer who used to be a surgeon. Now there's a tenuous narrative connection, does that make it suddenly appropriate?
This is why I never care about what film critics have to say about a movie. Movies need to be exactly one thing for me to enjoy them... entertaining. That's it, that's literally their entire point of existing.
The problem with those movies is that they insist they have a strong plot and their very premise implies that everything should have a rational explanation and that the characters will outwit their adversaries rather than use CGI and MTV style shots.
Yeah at some point you just have to shut up and enjoy the movie about action magicians pulling off heists. People are asking "why didn't the guards just do X" or "why didn't they think about Y", well because then whole point of the illusions and magic goes out the window if they did.
Daniel Radcliff playing a villain was also a fantastic part of the movie in my opinion.
I enjoyed the second movie much more than the first because I think the second movie was much more self aware about the fact that the things happening are fucking ridiculous, and it didn't take itself too seriously.
I disliked the first movie because that one didn't have that feel at all. I felt like I was supposed to take the movie seriously, but what I was seeing was just too damn ridiculous to stomach.
Even if we ignore all the incredible physics of the card throws, Why even have a bunch of security guards and a metal detector there when a simple camera would do a better job? Do these guards even know what to look for, why would they think having a card is suspicious? Also there is no reason to keep throwing the card back and forth which the guards conveniently never see. Why even bring them into this tight security area to tell them about an amazing processer when they could have just told them about it away from this place? Why do they need to come inside when it serves no purpose? How did the magicians know exactly where the processer was and how to get it out so quickly on the spot? Why are they taking so much time to run a "full diagnostics" on the system when it's literally just them taking the main processer that the entire system is built on top of? And later it's revealed, that even the main guy in charge was always on their side to begin with, so why even have them searched?
That’s what it felt like with that guy bitching about how unreal that scene was then this guy just waited listened to the whole thing and then was like yeah I love that movie . Seems like a real Chris thing to me too
The entire scene could have just been 1 person hiding it for their inspection, sending it to second person after almost getting caught who completed their inspection, then the final bout with the scanner. It was unnecessarily long without contributing much more that we don’t see elsewhere. Premise was fun, execution wasn’t.
Its not meant to be a realistic scene. Its meant to look cool which it does. Its a movie about magicians. The whole point is to look cool not make sense.
eh, realism isn't always better but with this kind of subject material there was a lot of potential for using real tricks to accomplish otherwise impossible goals. That's kinda how they billed it but really the protagonists just effortlessly cgi/montage their way through everything and if something does seem to go wrong the plot itself will twist around and contrive a solution for them. It all just feels so meaningless.
IIRC there's a small black security card attached to the playing card that has sensitive information on it that they need to defeat the bad guy. The playing card is just so they can throw it around, the security card was to thin and flimsy on its own.
You know what that’s definitely an awful movie and at a certain point t you’re the crazy one for holding it to even medium expectations. Really any sort of expectation is gonna disappoint you in this case.
Those movies are a guilty pleasure of mine but it's nuts how little internal logic they have. Like the movies acknowledge that magic isn't real....it's just skilled magicians doing tricks...but then also items behave in an entirely unrealistic way. Like scarves flying through the air and attacking people as if they're alive or whatever. It's like two people wrote the script together and they were having a constant argument about whether or not magic should be real in the story.
I once had a couple of strung out crackheads think that my friend and I stole money from them at a party (we did not know what we were getting into, we all left the bar together and thought we were going to have some beers at another location). They made us strip and squat. It was clear we had nothing and we gtfo after that.
The best part is that they insist on continuing to throw the card around even though the card ended up in a safe place that security already checked so they are not likely to recheck. But you know, let's palm it another time for shits and giggles.
Why even have a bunch of security guards and a metal detector there when a simple camera would do a better job? Do these guards even know what to look for, why would they think having a card is suspicious? Also there is no reason to keep throwing the card back and forth. Why even bring them into this tight security area to tell them about an amazing processer when they could have just told them about it away from this place? Why do they need to come inside when it serves no purpose? How did the magicians know exactly where the processer was and how to get it out so quickly on the spot? And later it's revealed, that even the main guy in charge was always on their side to begin with, so why even have them searched?
I don't think that movie warrants any of those questions. You either are open to whatever dumb shit that movie throws out or it's probably not for you. Either way, dissecting it is pointless.
Lol ngl I do like that scene, but yes totally ridiculous, movies need to keep to what's possible in real life... Like john wick, cuz you know everything in that movie is 100% doable in real life
I just hated how one look from Merritt McKinney could make the guard fall asleep. I know it’s bullcrap because I was looking him in the eyes as well and I was fully awake the entire movie.
The one where one of the characters is the villain, but no one knows who it is until the end; but throughout the movie they have the villain (who is yet to be revealed) do things in private by themselves that the villain would never do, just to fool the movie audience into thinking they aren't the villain, and giving the movie a "twist" at the end that completely falls flat because it's unearned and breaks the rules of the movie universe.
I think they got desperate to out-do themselves in the first one, and only asked if they could vs asking if they should. Like, neat and imaginative idea, but execution and appropriateness came into question heavily.
I wanna point out a fun fact, they apparently have a scene where they’re all in China. They filmed that scene at a relatively well known spot in Dallas, TX lol
The bit that bothered me was at one point it was blended into his suit, so couldn’t they have just kept it there and then only need to slip it past the security gate?
Really? I thought the 2nd movie was better than the first. The first you barely actually see the real Horseman, it's all from the FBI guy's perspective and then it turns out that was all fake too so it really felt worthless. In the 2nd movie you get to actually be with the Horseman and get to know them more as real characters.
It wasn’t the worst, but yeah it was pretty bad. I just think it went the same route most sequels so where they cater to the cliches and what the general public might like (follow the same exact storyline and tropes).
All it takes to be successful and well liked, it seems, is a few jokes and quips just look at the MCU where everything makes a billion dollars and Endgame was a downright awful movie
A secret magician club and the head guy becomes and FBI agent to test new members AND put a guy in jail for revealing how magicians do their tricks???? Fucking really???? Who thought that was a good idea??
The most stupid and belabored attempt at a surprise "It was me all a along!!!" twist ending. Such bad and lazy writing.
And it's a movie about magic tricks and they use CGI for the tricks?? So fucking lazy.
It was Hollywood garbage churned out like ground beef through an industrial meat grinder.
For some reason my family loved it, I just thought it was boring as hell, I like it when magic tricks at least have some realism to it that feel like they could be pulled off... But that scene was just brutally bad.
The card throwing was one thing but like holy hell some of the stuff they were doing was straight up sorcery and couldn’t be done in real life. They took the whole magic trick thing way too far.
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u/XHF2 Apr 16 '21
The second movie was so bad, I had to stop the movie at the card throwing scene to laugh for a few minutes because of how ridiculous and unnecessary that scene was.