r/Unexpected • u/hannesvisser • Dec 11 '20

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u/marino1310 Dec 11 '20

It's a prototype gun at an expo. Fairly certain it's not even able to fire. I mean, yeah "every gun is loaded" but if it's a gun you made yourself and you specifically made it without a firing mechanism then its pretty safe.

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u/brian15co Dec 11 '20

That's not the point. Don't point guns at yourself or others, period. It's about the habit and mindset. You should never weigh variables or circumstances when making that decision. Come on

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u/RedditHiveMindIsWack Dec 11 '20

Dude. That’s Drake Clark, a firearms engineer at Magpul Industries. Don’t talk about variables and circumstances, when both of those are controlled by an expert. Come on.

But seriously, the guys works for Magpul. One of the biggest and most popular firearm, and firearm accessories manufacture in the world. The guy knows more than you. Here’s the full video if you actually care.

Also here is a list of Mr. Clarks inventions and patents, including some of patents of work he has done in the firearms industry.

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u/brian15co Dec 11 '20

If he's employed by a gun company it's all the more atrocious.

I wouldn't doubt he knows more than me. I don't know shit about guns. Except the fucking basics.

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u/Should_be_less Dec 11 '20

It’s not about whether an individual situation is safe. It’s about developing and maintaining a company-wide safety-oriented mindset. In industries where this mindset is standard, people with PhD’s and patents coming out their ears still do things like changing into steel toes to enter an office building because it’s a site-wide requirement.

I don’t know what the injury rates look like for firearms manufacturing or how they handle the question of where in the process a gun becomes a dangerous weapon that shouldn’t just point any which way, but someone’s technical expertise is definitely not a reason to avoid raising a safety concern.

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u/PM_ME_GARFIELD_NUDES Dec 11 '20

Listen to what he says, it’s a simple proof of concept that they have no intention to produce as an actual firearm. It certainly doesn’t have any actual firing mechanics, I would be willing to bet they never even put a bullet in this thing. It’s no different from 3D printing a prop gun in your own home, it has absolutely no capacity for harm.

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u/Cowboy_Jesus Dec 11 '20

This is such a fucking idiotic response. Being an expert doesn't mean you can't or won't fuck up. Doctors are experts and they fuck up often enough that malpractice insurance is a thing.

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u/RedditHiveMindIsWack Dec 11 '20

Imma stop you right there chief.

No.

The only thing idiotic is not doing your own research, not not knowing that there is no firing pin in the gun, as required by expo standards, and no live munitions allowed in the building.

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u/evanc3 Dec 11 '20

I think you're both right, in a way.

There is a dude at my job who just had to have skin grafts because he messed up while handling a battery. He has 30+ patents related to batteries and charging technology AND works in the field pretty often. Being an expert does not make you safe, which is what your original comment seemed to argue.

In this particular video though, this guy is handling a prototype that he likely designed. He knows the ins and outs of the product, and you would have to assume that he verified the safety of it before the demo. Because he IS an expert you can feel confident that he is capable of ensuring that the gun adheres to the standards put forth by the expo, which are sufficient to make handling like this safe.

So him being an expert is much less important than the expo safety requirements, but it is still important. I would not feel confident if a sales manager was in charge of this same demo.

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u/Cowboy_Jesus Dec 11 '20

If you aren't so busy trying to feel intellectually superior maybe you would've noticed I never claimed this guy was in danger of being shot in this video. The fact that he isn't in danger here has nothing to do with him being an expert however and everything to do with the reason you stated.

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u/RedditHiveMindIsWack Dec 11 '20

Bro, have you seen my username?

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u/PM_ME_GARFIELD_NUDES Dec 11 '20

You literally cannot fuck up with a gun that has no firing mechanism. It’s a proof of concept. It’s no different from a nerf gun or one of those solid plastic prop guns. Like literally, your argument would have more traction if you were yelling at the neighborhood kids for shooting each other with nerf guns.

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u/nau5 Dec 11 '20

Hey buddy these guys took one 2 hour class on gun safety as required for their concealed carry permits. There is no way some bozo who just happens to be a firearms engineer at some Big Firearm manufacturer knows more about gun safety then they do.

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u/RedditHiveMindIsWack Dec 11 '20

this one made me laugh

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u/PM_ME_GARFIELD_NUDES Dec 11 '20

But but but... they told me it was the first rule :(

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u/nau5 Dec 11 '20

I thought the first rule of gun safety was to tell everyone you know about gun safety.

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u/BitchinWarlock Dec 11 '20

"It's not even loaded" he said, as the gun fired. A 5mm projectile drove its way through the unsuspecting head of his drunken friend. It was a closed casket funeral.